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Subject: Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion
From: Tim Williams <williamstw@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/12/2015 10:10 AM, Emmanuel L=C3=A9charny wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding inactive mentors, this is quite simple : we have a monthly
>>> report that has to be signed off by mentors, if one mentor does not sig=
n
>>> it three time in a raw, shouldn't we consider that this mentor has
>>> already stepped down ?
>>
>> No, it's not simple. Actively removing people from volunteer roles is mu=
ch
>> more complicated than you might suppose. I'd rather focus on making myse=
lf a
>> better mentor than any measures against other mentors which might be see=
n as
>> punitive.
>
> Getting some things out of the way:
>
> I agree that it is not simple.  I agree that it is complicated.  I
> disagree that it needs to be viewed as punitive.  I suggest it would
> be worthwhile to do.  I respect that this may not be something you
> personally would want to volunteer for.  I believe that you can't fix
> what you don't measure.  I acknowledge that measuring may lead to
> gaming, though in this case I think the rewards are so vanishingly
> small that that is unlikely to be a major issue.
>
> Whew!
>
> Now on to the substance of my reply:
>
> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff

Hi Sam,
A small request - any chance you can adjust the colors for that page?
David added some notes to Clutch[1] for details but I reckon
#009e73 and #d55e00 would be better.

Thanks,
--tim

[1] - http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#notes-cud

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