Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B6818A8C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85763 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2015 15:36:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 85563 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2015 15:36:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 85523 invoked by uid 99); 9 Oct 2015 15:36:27 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 15:36:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 4558BC513C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.103 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.103 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=microsoft.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c9yGdX0mBGsO for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0111.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.111]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 5D4FD4357F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=selector1; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=KhqZgFTu1A4LlzbO/i+2lmApq2WQg4NSksxZLQl1+i0=; b=lbUKj61iJRKI129CPuFEJun/8+dZARSk1s+mPDZr7xzsLjZ6Kql9e3DUBtPVqooomftxWRyw8plnGqH/ahEss8zbsaWAOT719REqhi6Bkz1rWtVxLksZ8eNl7anDUID5btkCd1auG4fXwLJ/Pegp9BwQxWtlaEULo0WDajMal/M= Received: from BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.142.20) by BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.142.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.286.20; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:19 +0000 Received: from BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.142.20]) by BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.142.20]) with mapi id 15.01.0286.019; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:18 +0000 From: Ross Gardler To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy Thread-Topic: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy Thread-Index: AQHRAqRvKgr9fNfpx0O2NWoU8XVJOp5jRBJA Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:36:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5617D82A.9040809@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <5617D82A.9040809@apache.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com; x-originating-ip: [50.106.12.220] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;BY2PR03MB490;5:uGX5rRuN3qPMZ4QkoMbq4vuuuOt9gesnUD074pYjBTHdBLE3wvwhJpiWqccpshfTXXv8WfC3A1oHmrpyCm4G2PKEc4mUkKbYO3RwydVSUU0pT5kixlILSt9vmHiu6nKHB8tpgdEz87ez4YP5//F1tQ==;24:sxKrkj0e7yCiXrIKEtizXd5KHIsN+ctx/hShKZWBIy3nIToossog+hazI3zRbIdB58hyvgtzm8D49XsbylvPKrGyOho4dB2/3LK5iJShk94=;20:ifHqrBgsWYj28uCAYAZNyOq+dE7B4O2c6aQoUptZ3GgqOxBC8EYyNvG3Ebc1EpTgwxXWA1Zi8oWQ45rrfzFM4w== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(42134001)(42139001);SRVR:BY2PR03MB490; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(61425024)(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(520078)(8121501046)(3002001)(61426024)(61427024);SRVR:BY2PR03MB490;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR03MB490; x-forefront-prvs: 0724FCD4CD x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(13464003)(252514010)(189002)(199003)(377454003)(5008740100001)(10290500002)(64706001)(66066001)(33656002)(8990500004)(561944003)(10400500002)(101416001)(10090500001)(5005710100001)(1720100001)(122556002)(74316001)(40100003)(77096005)(92566002)(2950100001)(2900100001)(450100001)(76576001)(102836002)(105586002)(5003600100002)(106356001)(2351001)(2501003)(19580395003)(15975445007)(5007970100001)(5001920100001)(5004730100002)(81156007)(19580405001)(46102003)(106116001)(97736004)(99286002)(87936001)(86612001)(54356999)(50986999)(86362001)(5002640100001)(107886002)(76176999)(189998001)(110136002)(5001960100002);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR03MB490;H:BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: microsoft.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 09 Oct 2015 15:36:18.7674 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR03MB490 SSdtIG5vdCBzdXJlIGFib3V0IHRoaXMuDQoNCkluIHRoZSBwYXN0IEkndmUgYXJndWVkIHRoYXQg d2UgbmVlZCBtZW50b3JzIHdobyAqZG8qIGhhdmUgYSBwZXJzb25hbCBpbnRlcmVzdC4gVGhvc2Ug YXJlIHRoZSBvbmVzIGxlYXN0IGxpa2VseSB0byBiZSBhYnNlbnQgZHVyaW5nIGluY3ViYXRpb24u DQoNCkkgZG8gYWdyZWUgdGhhdCBtZW50b3JzIG11c3QgYWN0IGluIGEgbmV1dHJhbCB3YXkuIEkg d291bGQgaG9wZSB0aGF0IGlmIHRoaXMgd2VyZSBub3QgdGhlIGNhc2UgdGhlbiBzb21lb25lIHdv dWxkIHNwZWFrIHVwLiBJIGFjY2VwdCB0aGF0IGl0IHdvdWxkIGJlIGF3a3dhcmQgdG8gZG8gc28g YnV0IGNvbmNlcm5zIG5lZWQgbm90IGJlIHJhaXNlZCBpbiBhICJwZXJzb24gRm9vIGlzIG5vdCBh Y3RpbmcgaW4gYSBuZXV0cmFsIHdheSIgaW4gbW9zdCBjYXNlcyBpdCB3b3VsZCBhbHdheXMgYmUg cG9zc2libGUgdG8gc2F5ICJ0aGUgcHJvamVjdCBpcyBub3QgYWN0aW5nIGluIGEgbmV1dHJhbCB3 YXkiLiAgDQoNCkZ1cnRoZXJtb3JlLCBob3cgZG8gd2UgZXZhbHVhdGUgInZlc3RlZCBpbnRlcmVz dCIuIElmIHNvbWVvbmUgYWdyZWVzIHRvIG1lbnRvciBhIHByb2plY3QgdGhhdCBpcyBmcm9tIGEg dGVhbSBpbiBhIGRpZmZlcmVudCBwYXJ0IG9mIHRoZWlyIGNvbXBhbnkgZG8gdGhleSBoYXZlIGEg dmVzdGVkIGludGVyZXN0PyBTcGVha2luZyBwZXJzb25hbGx5IEkgaGF2ZSBtb3JlIGludGVyZXN0 IGluIHRoZSBzdWNjZXNzIG9mIG91ciBwYXJ0bmVycyB0aGFuIEkgZG8gaW4gc29tZSB1bnJlbGF0 ZWQgcGFydHMgb2YgbXkgZW1wbG95ZXJzIGJ1c2luZXNzLiBEb2VzIHRoYXQgbWVhbiBJIHNob3Vs ZCBub3QgYmUgYWxsb3dlZCB0byBtZW50b3IgcHJvamVjdHMgZnJvbSBteSBwYXJ0bmVycyB0b28/ IFdoaWxlIEkgY2FuIGhpZGUgYmVoaW5kIGEgImJpZyBjb21wYW55IGJsaW5kbmVzcyIgY2FzZSBv dGhlcnMgaGF2ZSBubyBzdWNoIG9wdGlvbi4gV2hhdCBpZiB0aGV5IGFyZSBmcm9tIGEgU01FIHdo byBkb2VzIG5vdCBoYXZlIHRoYXQgbHV4dXJ5LCBob3cgZG8gd2UgZW5mb3JjZSB0aGlzIHByb3Bv c2FsIGZhaXJseT8NCg0KSSdkIGxpa2UgdG8gdGhpbmsgdGhhdCBpZiB0aGUgQVNGIGlzIHRoZSBy aWdodCBwbGFjZSBmb3IgYSBwcm9qZWN0IGluIHdoaWNoIHNvbWVvbmUgaGFzIGEgdmVzdGVkIGlu dGVyZXN0IHRoZW4gdGhleSB3aWxsIHdhbnQgdGhhdCBwcm9qZWN0IHRvIG9wZXJhdGUgYXMgYW4g QXBhY2hlIHByb2plY3QuIEJ5IGRlZmluaXRpb24gdGhhdCBtZWFucyB0aGF0IHRoZSBtZW50b3Ig bXVzdCBhY3QgaW1wYXJ0aWFsbHkgaWYgdGhleSBhcmUgdG8gYWNoaWV2ZSB0aGVpciBnb2Fscy4N Cg0KUGVyc29uYWxseSBJIHdvdWxkIGZvY3VzIG1vcmUgb24gYmV0dGVyIG92ZXJzaWdodCBvZiBw b2RsaW5nIGFuZCBtZW50b3IgYWN0aXZpdHkuIFRoZSBnb2FsIGlzIHRvIGNhdGNoIHRoZSBvY2Nh c2lvbmFsIHByb2JsZW0gY2FzZSByYXRoZXIgdGhhbiBwdXQgcmVzdHJpY3Rpb25zIGluIHBsYWNl LiBJJ20gbm90IHN1cmUgaG93IHRvIGRvIHRoYXQgdGhvdWdoLiBJIGFuZCBvdGhlcnMgaGF2ZSBt YWRlIG1hbnkgc3VnZ2VzdGlvbnMgb3ZlciB0aGUgeWVhcnMuIFRoZXkgY2FuIGJlIGZvdW5kIGhl cmUgaHR0cDovL3dpa2kuYXBhY2hlLm9yZy9pbmN1YmF0b3IvSW5jdWJhdG9ySXNzdWVzMjAxMyAo eW91IG1pZ2h0IHdhbnQgdG8gYWRkIHlvdXIgcHJvcG9zYWwgdGhlcmUpLg0KDQpSb3NzDQoNCi0t LS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBEYW5pZWwgR3J1bm8gW21haWx0bzpodW1i ZWRvb2hAYXBhY2hlLm9yZ10gDQpTZW50OiBGcmlkYXksIE9jdG9iZXIgOSwgMjAxNSA4OjA3IEFN DQpUbzogZ2VuZXJhbEBpbmN1YmF0b3IuYXBhY2hlLm9yZw0KU3ViamVjdDogW0RJU0NVU1NdIE1l bnRvciBuZXV0cmFsaXR5IHBvbGljeQ0KDQpIaSBJbmN1YmF0b3IgZm9sa3MsDQoNCkkgd291bGQg bGlrZSB0byBwcm9wb3NlIHdlIGFkb3B0IGEgbWVudG9yIG5ldXRyYWxpdHkgcG9saWN5IGZvciBp bmN1YmF0aW5nIHBvZGxpbmdzOg0KDQotIEEgbWVudG9yIG11c3Qgbm90IGJlIGZpbmFuY2lhbGx5 IHRpZWQgdG8gdGhlIHByb2plY3Qgb3IgaXRzIGluY3ViYXRpb24gc3RhdHVzLg0KLSBBIG1lbnRv ciBtdXN0IG5vdCBoYXZlIGEgdmVzdGVkIGludGVyZXN0IGluIGluY3ViYXRpbmcsIGdyYWR1YXRp bmcgb3IgZGlzbWFudGxpbmcgYSBwb2RsaW5nIHRoYXQgZ29lcyBiZXlvbmQgdGhlIGdlbmVyYWwg QXBhY2hlIG1pc3Npb24NCi0gQSBtZW50b3IgbXVzdCBub3QgYmUgYWZmaWxpYXRlZCB3aXRoIHRo ZSBlbnRpdHkgZ3JhbnRpbmcgdGhlIGNvZGUgKGNvbXBhbnkgb3Igb3JpZ2luYWwgcHJvamVjdCBj b21tdW5pdHkpDQoNCkZ1cnRoZXJtb3JlLCBJIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gc2VlIHRoaXMgZXh0ZW5k ZWQgdG8gdm90ZXMgb24gZ3JhZHVhdGluZyBvciByZXRpcmluZyBwb2RsaW5ncywgc28gdGhhdCBv bmx5IHBlb3BsZSB3aXRoIG5vIG9yZ2FuaXphdGlvbmFsIChhcGFydHkgZnJvbSB0aGUgQVNGKSBv ciBmaW5hbmNpYWwgdGllcyB0byB0aGUgcHJvamVjdCAob3IgdGhlIGNvbXBhbmllcyBiZWhpbmQN Cml0KSBjYW4gY2FzdCBhIGJpbmRpbmcgdm90ZSBvbiBncmFkdWF0aW9uIG9yIHJldGlyZW1lbnQu DQoNClRoaXMgd291bGQgZXNzZW50aWFsbHkgbWVhbjoNCg0KLSBJZiB5b3Ugd29yayBmb3IgYSBj b21wYW55IChvciBhcmUgaGlyZWQgYXMgY29uc3VsdGFudC9hZHZpc29yKSB0aGF0IGlzIGVudGVy aW5nIGEgcHJvamVjdCBpbnRvIGluY3ViYXRpb24sIHlvdSBjYW5ub3QgbWVudG9yIGl0IG5vciB2 b3RlIGZvci9hZ2FpbnN0IGl0cyBpbmN1YmF0aW9uLCBncmFkdWF0aW9uIG9yIHJldGlyZW1lbnQu DQotIElmIHlvdSBhcmUgYSBpbiB0aGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgY29tbXVuaXR5IGJlaGluZCB0aGUgcHJv amVjdCwgeW91IGNhbm5vdCBtZW50b3IgaXQgbm9yIHZvdGUgZm9yL2FnYWluc3QgaXQuDQoNCkkg YmVsaWV2ZSB0aGlzIHdvdWxkIGNyZWF0ZSBhIG5ldXRyYWwgbWVudG9yc2hpcCB3aG9zZSBzb2xl IG1pc3Npb24gaXMgdG8gZ3VpZGUgcG9kbGluZ3Mgd2l0aCB0aGUgaW50ZXJlc3RzIG9mIHRoZSBB U0YgaW4gbWluZC4NCg0KDQpQbGVhc2UgZG8gZGlzY3VzcyB0aGlzLiBJZiB0aGVyZSBpcyAobW9z dGx5KSBwb3NpdGl2ZSBmZWVkYmFjaywgSSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvLCBhdCBzb21lIHBvaW50LCBo YXZlIGEgdm90ZSBvbiBpbmNsdWRpbmcgdGhpcyBpbiB0aGUgSW5jdWJhdG9yIHBvbGljeS4gSSBy ZWFsaXplIHRoaXMgd291bGQgY3V0IGRvd24gb24gdGhlIG51bWJlciBvZiBwb3RlbnRpYWwgbWVu dG9ycywgYW5kIEkgd291bGQgYXNrIHRoYXQgbW9yZSBwZW9wbGUgc3RlcCB1cCB0byB0aGUgY2hh bGxlbmdlIG9mIG1lbnRvcmluZyBpZiBhZG9wdGVkLg0KDQpXaXRoIHJlZ2FyZHMsDQpEYW5pZWwN Cg0KLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQpUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSwgZS1tYWlsOiBnZW5lcmFsLXVuc3Vic2Ny aWJlQGluY3ViYXRvci5hcGFjaGUub3JnDQpGb3IgYWRkaXRpb25hbCBjb21tYW5kcywgZS1tYWls OiBnZW5lcmFsLWhlbHBAaW5jdWJhdG9yLmFwYWNoZS5vcmcNCg0K DQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NClRvIHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlLCBlLW1haWw6IGdlbmVyYWwtdW5z dWJzY3JpYmVAaW5jdWJhdG9yLmFwYWNoZS5vcmcNCkZvciBhZGRpdGlvbmFsIGNvbW1hbmRz LCBlLW1haWw6IGdlbmVyYWwtaGVscEBpbmN1YmF0b3IuYXBhY2hlLm9yZw0K