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From: Ross Gardler <Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com>
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Subject: RE: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its
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Absolutely should be voluntary. We don't need more red tape. We need better=
 guidance.

The model is good guidance. Individual volunteers should evaluate from thei=
r own perspective and work towards improving areas they feel attached to.

That is, someone in the project from day one will not have the same view as=
 someone new to the community. The model is qualitative not quantative and =
thus open to interpretation. I'd hate for us to be too formal in its applic=
ation, ir will only lead to more debate over what is/is not best practice.

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From: Bertrand Delacretaz<mailto:bdelacretaz@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its=
 graduation

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Emmanuel L=E9charny <elecharny@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> ...that might just be me...

I agree that each of our projects regularly evaluating their state
against the maturity model would be useful. We can either make that a
requirement (like once a year as part of the board reporting) or make
that an optional "quality label" that projects can display on their
website, like a regularly updated version of what we're doing for the
Groovy podling at [1].

I prefer the latter, a voluntary public report that can be used by the
project's community as well as the board as a tool for evaluating the
project's health but without imposing more process on our projects.

(and as others have said this would be a more a discussion for comdev,
it's not incubator-specific)

-Bertrand

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