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From Ted Dunning <>
Subject Starting from the other end
Date Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:55:56 GMT
We have just had a few interminable threads regarding what is wrong with
incubator and jumping directly to implementation attempts for changes.

That isn't the way I would code something complex so it seems to me that by
analogy we might want to start from the other end and start with what we
all agree on.

Building on that agreement and common ground, I think it will be much, much
easier to determine where we have weaknesses, bottlenecks or limitations
and also to suggest improvements.

To do this, I am going to start a google doc to describe WHAT the incubator
is supposed to do (easier to edit than a wiki) and once that document
stabilizes a bit will move it to the wiki.

That document should be able to let us move to similar efforts to describe
HOW the incubator currently works.  I would hope that one side effect of
this second stage would be to pull together current documentation on the
current incubator.

At that point, we can point out specific improvements and start the real
work of making things better.

So here we go. The first step (What Apache Incubator Does) can be edited at

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