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From Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
Subject RE: Possible process improvement?
Date Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:36:44 GMT
Hi,

Re: My assertion that iCLA lacks e-mail address: I was incorrect. Thanks for
pointing it out. It might make sense though if the purpose of the e-mail
address was pointed out there, e.g, "This is the e-mail address that your
apache e-mail will be forwarded to.". Good to know also that mentors can get
at the iCLAs. I did not know that.

Re: My mixing private and public dlists: Thanks for the correction.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:30 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Possible process improvement?

On 14/10/2015 21:07, Dave Birdsall wrote:

<snip/>

> Now, the iCLA form itself asks for the preferred apache ID. But that
> form does not ask about forwarding e-mail ID. Too, the receipt of the
> iCLA is forwarded to the podling’s private list, but not the iCLA itself.

The CLA form [1] includes e-mail address and it is not marked as optional.
What am I missing?

> Also, the committer accept template makes no mention of providing a
> forwarding e-mail address.

It should be easy to change that to make it clear that any field not marked
as optional is mandatory.

> So, the mentor has to ask. And the mentor often doesn’t have an e-mail
> address for the new person. So that request has to be relayed through
> the podling PMC private list, and someone there who knows the
> individual can ask.

Mentor's should have access to the part of svn where the CLAs are filed so
they should be able to get the e-mail address from the CLA.

Also, the invited committer will have replied to the private list from a
valid e-mail address and the mentors will be subscribed to the private list.
So they already know the e-mail address for the new committer.
Again, I feel I am missing something. I don't see where / how the disconnect
you describe is happening.

Mark

[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf


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