Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C3201835B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83972 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2015 01:17:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83779 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2015 01:17:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83768 invoked by uid 99); 10 Aug 2015 01:17:26 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:17:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id D1DE41A9BCD for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:17:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.001 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.001 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TwXwCRXdOas2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 6705842BC9 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbtg9 with SMTP id tg9so49013365lbb.1 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 18:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wNNsvIpXCc7G1JHur/M67a0u4FEFqkTW5a8KQJzd9Ow=; b=grvXWbG4kpbOBttEoKhzgbqvjkKFgQZJwvVHE6xfCLSUHi2S0FhiQhVkU0yswvhef3 3reJQWZ4ov60p3a+CBT9NpRHEGRmvHPB59tdE5s8tYj8QmFVelv7g/2kyzO3KhIT42Ui CLv2AQar0GIltLWQJxAxNWLc8IneGSOfVhEpPoN1EgRRDypQR1EV78e+aCXU05bQ9xNk E5a1FlYi3CiNqJI0HFvWWDIbXxlGMWitOw9ap6YobMLyTI7O+S05J2637uEpauOujZ1L 1hEBNG0utd6z9fmwNkleno3pafuHUDZLdz/qG6cryZd9a/ggb/Fm6zsCN3TKdnF7I2vB NGwA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnzQsETMjVCIoIXCBRX61JLiGycHWHrlYnL7H4UHdjCnKoUle29EceZLlmZNPTom+xVgzb0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.204.196 with SMTP id la4mr18262350lac.124.1439169384171; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 18:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.130.129 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2602:306:32e5:e8b0:d529:7198:d3f6:e01a] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:16:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Droids Podling Issue From: Marvin Humphrey To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Cc: "droids-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > FWIW: Droids has always been right there after NPanday for me > to be concerned about. This is not the isolated instance you're > seeing. The Incubator is basically holding Droids open out of deference to Thorsten and Richard, both of whom are Apache Members and IPMC members. Droids has not been active for a long time, and would require considerable work building a community before it could graduate as a TLP. Some small podlings have graduated in the past (no fewer than 5 PMC members) and it has worked out OK. Having two people as experienced as Richard and Thorsten on Board in a group of 5 would make it a decent bet, were the podling active. But almost nothing has been going on with Droids for years. The matter will probably resolve once Richard tires of making quarterly reports and challenging calls to retire the podling whenever a report is late. Marvin Humphrey --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org