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From Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apex Incubation Proposal
Date Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:03:16 GMT
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Amol Kekre <amol@datatorrent.com> wrote:

> Niall,
> Thanks for catching. I replaced '-' with '_' as per atlassian policy. I am
> suspecting that ASF does not allow '_' as none of the project keys have
> '_'. I have added a comment that '_' can be removed if that is the policy.
> Wiki updated.
>

I asked on the infra list what the JIRA key format was and whether it could
be changed to include underscore and got the following response:

"They are all uppercase alpha characters. Sadly it cannot be changed."

Niall



>
> Thks,
> Amol
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Niall Pemberton <
> niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Amol Kekre <amol@datatorrent.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > oh! We preferred that during our discussion. Somehow we thought there
> > was a
> > > limit. I have changed it to full names (APEX-CORE, APEX-MALHAR). If
> there
> > > is a limit we can reduce the number of chars later. wiki is updated.
> > >
> > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApexProposal
> > >
> >
> > Hyphens are not allowed as project keys, but underscore is a possibility.
> > The default format is only upper case letters - but you'll need to check
> > what ASF has configured.
> >
> >
> >
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Changing+the+Project+Key+Format
> >
> > Niall
> >
> >
> > Thks,
> > > Amol
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Hitesh Shah <hitesh@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If there isn’t a char limit on project names in JIRA, wouldn’t it
> just
> > be
> > > > better to use “APEX-CORE” and “APEX-MALHAR” to match the actual
> project
> > > > names, repos, etc?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > — Hitesh
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Amol Kekre <amol@datatorrent.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chris,
> > > > > Thanks for articulating what I was going to respond with after
> > talking
> > > to
> > > > > folks here. We indeed see versions for Malhar and Apex differing.
> We
> > > > expect
> > > > > Malhar versions to change much more rapidly than Apex.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted,
> > > > > We discussed the impact of single jira on versioning.  For example
> we
> > > > > expect Malhar X.0.0 to happen much earlier than Apex X.0.0. There
> was
> > > > > discomfort in naming versions with prefix. The consensus was to
> have
> > > > > version numbers convey stuff. If folks don't have strong opinion
on
> > two
> > > > > jiras, we would prefer to use two jiras. We have taken up
> Bertrand's
> > > > scope
> > > > > naming and changed the names of jira projects as follows
> > > > >
> > > > > APX-CORE
> > > > > APX-MLHR
> > > > >
> > > > > I have changed the wiki to reflect the above as jira project names.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thks,
> > > > > Amol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Chris Nauroth <
> > > > cnauroth@hortonworks.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> One thing to consider is that release version numbers are tied
to
> > > > specific
> > > > >> JIRA projects.  If the intention is for Apex and Malhar version
> > > numbers
> > > > to
> > > > >> be independent, then using a single JIRA project could introduce
> > some
> > > > risk
> > > > >> of confusion if an Apex version number accidentally gets applied
> to
> > a
> > > > >> Malhar issue.  It might necessitate prefixing the version numbers
> > with
> > > > >> "apex-" and "malhar-" to differentiate.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Based on that, I have a slight preference for separate JIRA
> > projects.
> > > > >> However, I don't object to using a single unified JIRA project
if
> > > others
> > > > >> feel strongly about it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --Chris Nauroth
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 8/11/15, 8:23 AM, "Amol Kekre" <amol@datatorrent.com>
wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Ted,
> > > > >>> I agree that repo is more critical than jira instance. I
am
> taking
> > up
> > > > your
> > > > >>> suggesstion with folks and should get back soon.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thks
> > > > >>> Amol
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:48 AM, Ted Dunning <
> > ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I personally see far less reason for separate JIRA instances
> than
> > > git
> > > > >>>> repos. Having all jiras under APEX seems a good choice.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 2:32, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > > > bdelacretaz@apache.org
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> As for JIRA, I would apply the same rule, so APX-CORE
and
> > APX-MHAR
> > > > >>>> maybe.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
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