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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Podlings and the ASF maturity model (was: Reform of Incubator...)
Date Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:21:50 GMT
On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
wrote:

> +1
>
> with the understanding that there is the usual flexibility between
> policies and practices, consistent with the spirit and principles of the
> ASF for Apache Projects.
>
> And, to be fair, I think TLPs should also self-assess on a periodic basis
> as an accountability of the PMC, nudged as necessary by the Chair (not to
> do it as much as to direct the PMCs eyes to the ball).

I do not understand why the initative should come from the Chair, the chair
is just an ordinary PMC member with a added responsibility to the board.
The Chair cannot and should not be able to "nudge" more than any other PMC.

rgds
jan i.



>
> I can also imagine the maturity model items being used on an exception
> basis, only reporting maturity-model deviations and how they are being
> addressed as part of a report to the Board.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacretaz@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 00:28
> To: Incubator General <general@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Podlings and the ASF maturity model (was: Reform of
> Incubator...)
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > ...the maturity model shouldn't be a set of gating criteria, but that the
> > podling should self-assess its position and to what degree, as well as
> how,
> > each point is handled. Yes, many of the points are non-negotiable, but
> > don't claim that all are...
>
> So you would see the maturity model as one element of the Incubation
> graduating checklist, with self-assessment from the podling and its
> mentors? I like the idea.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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