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From Konstantin Boudnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Reform of Incubator
Date Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:03:58 GMT
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 11:36AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> >> ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering
> >> PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?...
> >
> > How is that different from the status quo where a podling with active
> > mentors can have their releases +1ed by their mentors, requiring
> > minimal interaction with the IPMC?
> 
> I think it is more of a bias issue. IOW, today it seems that the default bias
> of IPMC is to consider itself a final authority (or a gatekeeper) on podling
> releases. We need to break that bias and make it so that it is truly a safety
> net, rather than a gatekeeper.
> 
> IOW, I'd like the release traffic on general@ to ONLY consist of [NOTICE]
> emails, not [VOTE].

We perhaps are observing the well known phenomena called self-selection bias
[1] And it seems to me that the simplification and better clarification of the
incubation guidelines might be exactly what's needed to prevent a
bureaucratism outbreak. As well as the situation when ppl express their
expectations as a law-of-the-land (even from best intentions).

Cos


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