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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)
Date Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:24:23 GMT
Sorry, my comment was too brief.  

I understand the maturity model to be something to aspire to and that Apache Projects will
always be working toward it.  I mean TLPs, not podlings, although podlings should be aware
of it and also aspire to it.  

I was commending the structure and clarity of the maturity model as a basis, not about it
being somehow held to podlings as a graduation yardstick or anything else.

I was responding in the context of Bertrand's comment,

   Creating a release checklist in a structured text format
   sounds like a good start anyway, so we can start with that
   ... .

that used the maturity model format as a suggested form.

 - D



-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:37
To: general@incubator.apache.org; orcmid@apache.org
Subject: Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On 4 August 2015 at 18:46, Dennis E. Hamilton <orcmid@apache.org> wrote:

> +1 on how to start, with the maturity model as exemplar, is an outstanding
> idea.  Thanks.
>
> (I even have a poddling in mind for stress-testing it.)
>
It is clear to me, that incubator offer many advantages...but our current
overweight to control everything is seen (and are) a negative effect,
anything
that can reduce that is good.

I think the maturity model is good, but to used with care. If I think of
the same podling as Dennis, that would clearly be a test done too early.

rgds
jan i.


>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacretaz@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 05:57
> To: Incubator General <general@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from
> the Apache Incubator)
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 2015-08-04 13:01, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> >>... IMO the Incubator PMC can very much own this checklist, and I
> >> volunteer to contribute to creating it...
>
> > If interested, I would very much like to work with you on perhaps turning
> > this into a sort of 'online compliance check' where podlings could
> upload a
> > tarball or some such, and the service would scan it for compliance, go
> > through the checklist, and report back which elements are compliant and
> > which are not...
>
> Wow, that's more ambitious than what I envisioned but I know your are
> able to do that  ;-)
>
> Creating a release checklist in a structured text format sounds like a
> good start anyway, so we can start with that and if you and others
> want to turn it into an online analysis service that would be
> fantastic.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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