Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F338318CDC for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29319 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2015 08:13:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29133 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2015 08:13:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29120 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jul 2015 08:13:51 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:13:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 6CBA0D7426 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:13:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.98 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mrzRKonO-pMn for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp26.services.sfr.fr (smtp26.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.163]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 68EF820C4B for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [77.130.226.147]) by msfrf2603.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D03621C001027 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: sfrmc.priv.atos.fr; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none (no policy) header.from=jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com Received: from [192.168.1.72] (147.226.130.77.rev.sfr.net [77.130.226.147]) by msfrf2603.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A67591C00101D for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:12:40 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20150724081240681.A67591C00101D@msfrf2603.sfr.fr Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator To: general@incubator.apache.org References: <55AF42D1.50801@apache.org> <8EDEABC0-28A5-4DAB-844C-CCB484E97FF9@apache.org> <55B0061A.3000707@apache.org> <20150722231648.GU28615@boudnik.org> <55B07771.9050001@gmx.org> <20150723062040.GG4306@tpx> <20150723185459.GE30506@boudnik.org> From: Jacques Le Roux Organization: Les Arts Informatiques Message-ID: <55B1F37E.1040503@les7arts.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:12:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le 23/07/2015 21:19, Ted Dunning a écrit : > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:29AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Konstantin Boudnik >> wrote: >>>> Looks like now we can put "git branch deletion data loss" fiction to >> rest. >>> I think that I am willing to say that the entirely reasonable git branch >>> detail loss QUESTION has been answered. >>> >>> I don't think that recasting it as a fiction is helpful because it tends >> to >>> polarize the conversation by implying that the question was made up as >> some >>> sort of propaganda ploy that had to be defeated by righteous opponents. >> No implications of a propaganda ploy, Ted - sorry if it looked that way. >> However, stories about how one thinks a software application should work is >> exactly that - a fiction ;) >> > Cos, > > I am basing my questions on comments you made earlier [1]. To wit: > > After a quick walk through the master log I see that a bunch of the >> questionable commits are resulted from the dev. branches histories not >> being >> properly squashed before the feature is merged into the master. > > My reading of your meaning here is that histories are expected to be > squashed, thus losing historical detail. > > So this isn't a fiction, nor am I uninformed about how git works. This is > about questions that were raised based on how presumably well-informed > insiders describe the process combined with an examination of recent JIRA's > and the mailing list. > > As a side issue, I don't think that it helps to describe the other > participants in a conversation with heavily loaded terms and phrases like > "fiction" or "stories" or "how one thinks ... application should work". > Please credit other people in this conversation with good intent and with > technical competence. There are real questions being discussed here and > distracting the conversation from the content-rich answers that can resolve > those questions isn't helpful. Texas style? Jacques > > > [1] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201507.mbox/%3C20150722231648.GU28615%40boudnik.org%3E > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org