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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:48:53 -0700
From: Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:30PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to
> nowhere.

Or, I didn't know that unique message Id isn't enough nowadays. Here's the
easier link for your convenience ;)

    http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb

with the link to the overarching thread
    http://apache.markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb?q=flume+diversity+list:org%2Eapache%2Eincubator%2Egeneral+from:+%22Roy%22

Cos

> If we take away the names of the mentors from the list (Branko, Roman and
> yours) as well as those in other projects (Evans) from the list of intended
> project members, the situation even grows worse. Then the number grows to
> 77%. That doesn't look promising regarding independence, and neither
> regarding healthiness.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
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> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > The so-called diversity requirement has been discussed on this list for a
> > number of times. Most recent is the graduation of Flume project (back in
> > 2012). Here's a quote from that thread (kudos to Roy; for those who want
> > to look it up in the archives MessageId is
> > 73DB2E64-87D5-4DD5-91FB-403464895AC5@gbiv.com):
> >
> > [quote]
> > There is no diversity requirement at the ASF.  There is a behavior
> > requirement for graduation and a behavior requirement for TLPs.
> > We must not confuse the two. If the Incubator says that there is a
> > diversity requirement for graduation, ignore it (or at least figure
> > out what the docs were supposed to say and then do that).
> > I'd urge folks to fix the docs, but I know where that leads ...
> > and I have no cycles to spare.
> >
> > A diversity requirement would mean that a person's employment
> > status impacts their ability to participate here.  IOW, it would
> > create a perverse incentive for them not to be employed.
> > [/quote]
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Cos
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:55PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > > It seems that 63% of the podling's PMC is affiliated to 1 organisation
> > > (Gridgrain).
> > >
> > > Have sufficient grounds been covered to ensure diversity and independece?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . <
> > amareshwari@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to " the
> > automated
> > > > > and managed flow of information between systems."
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont see any such on project website -
> > > > > http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/
> > > > > Looks like a copy from NIFI's graduation discussion -
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201506.mbox/%3CCALJK9a4PD%2B3qGGQbbHHyLfY8Ut9BP9VyEDwtnZDSWjpMKiwk9w%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> > > > > .
> > > > > You might want to correct it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yup, copy-n-paste never works :) Corrected below.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct me if description is fine and  I'm wrong in understanding the
> > > > > description
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Amareshwari
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Apache Incubator,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the suggestion of our mentors the Ignite community established
> > > > > consensus
> > > > > > and held a successful vote with 14 +1 votes in favor of proposing
> > > > > > graduation to TLP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vote thread:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Graduate-Apache-Ignite-from-Incubation-td1539.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Summary of the vote results:
> > > > > > +1 (non-binding) = 14
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    1. Yakov Zhdanov (PMC)
> > > > > >    2. Gianfranco Murador (PMC)
> > > > > >    3. Ira Vasilinets (PMC)
> > > > > >    4. Nikolai Tichinov (PMC)
> > > > > >    5. Semyon Boikov (PMC)
> > > > > >    6. Sergi Vladykin (PMC)
> > > > > >    7. Alexey Goncharuk (PMC)
> > > > > >    8. Ognen Duzlevski (PMC)
> > > > > >    9. Valentin Kulichenko (PMC)
> > > > > >    10. Nikita Ivanov (PMC)
> > > > > >    11. Dmitriy Setrakyan (PMC)
> > > > > >    12. Andrey Novikov (Committer)
> > > > > >    13. Alexey Kuznetsov (Committer)
> > > > > >    14. Milap Wadwa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a
> > consensus
> > > > > > within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Below is our proposed resolution:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan(on behalf of the Apache Ignite PPMC)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SUBJECT: Establish the Apache Ignite TLP
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > > > > >     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > > > > >     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > > > > >     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > > > > >     open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> > > > > >     the public, related to the automated and managed flow of
> > > > > >     information between systems.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Should be:
> > > >
> > > > ---------
> > > > "related to delivering an In-Memory Data Fabric - a high-performance,
> > > > integrated and distributed in-memory platform for computing and
> > transacting
> > > > on large-scale data sets in real-time"
> > > >  --------
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > > > > >     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ignite Project",
> > > > > >     be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > > > > >     Foundation; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby is
> > > > > >     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> > > > > >     related to the automated and managed flow of information
> > > > > >     between systems and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ignite" be
> > > > > >     and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > > > > >     serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> > > > > >     of the Apache Ignite Project, and to have primary
> > responsibility
> > > > > >     for management of the projects within the scope of
> > > > > >     responsibility of the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > > > > >     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > > > > >     Apache Ignite Project:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Semyon Boikov (sboikov@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Konstantin Boudnik (cos@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Branko Čibej (brane@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Ognen Duzlevski (maketo@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Sergey Evdokimov (sevdokimov@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Alexey Goncharuk (agoncharuk@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Nikita Ivanov (nivanov30@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Sergey Khisamov (skh@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Valentin Kulichenko (vkulichenko@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Alexey Kuznetsov (akuznetsov@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Gianfranco Murador (murador@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Andrey Novikov (anovikov@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Vladimir Ozerov (vozerov@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Dmitriy Setrakyan (dsetrakyan@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Roman Shaposhnik (rvs@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Ilya Sterin (isterin@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Nikolai Tikhonov (ntikhonov@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Irina Vasilinets (ivasilinets@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Anton Vinogradov (av@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Sergey Vladykin (svladykin@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Evans Ye (evansye@apache.org)
> > > > > >     Yakov Zhdanov (yzhdanov@apache.org)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that
> > > > > >     Dmitriy Setrakyan be appointed to the office of Vice President,
> > > > > >     Apache Ignite, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
> > > > > >     direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
> > > > > >     Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > > > >     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
> > > > > >     and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is
> > > > > >     tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> > > > > >     encourage open development and increased participation in the
> > > > > >     Apache Ignite Project; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby
> > > > > >     is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> > > > > >     Incubator Ignite podling; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > > > > >     Incubator Ignite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> > > > > >     Project are hereafter discharged.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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