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From Konstantin Boudnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:52:10 GMT
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:25PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2015 11:37 AM, "Branko ─îibej" <brane@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 29.07.2015 18:14, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015, at 03:19 AM, Branko ─îibej wrote:
> > >> Personally I'm not too happy with how this community tracks issues, but
> > >> hey, if it works for them, why fix it? It'll be a fine day when the
> IPMC
> > >> starts telling podlings how their development workflow should look
> like.
> > > Does "works for them" translate into "people not currently in the
> > > community can follow how the existing community tracks issues, so they
> > > can contribute and become part of the community"? If so, then maybe it's
> > > OK. If it's not transparent to folks not currently part of that
> > > community, it's hard to see how the community will sustain itself with
> > > new members as other folks inevitably move on to other projects.
> >
> > Given that new contributors keep showing up on a regular basis, I have
> > to assume that it's not so opaque as all that.
> >
> > Anyway, Ignite has been discussing and implementing a revised (and IMO
> > better) set of policies for Jira use and git workflow since this
> > discussion started; other than displaying an incomprehensible preference
> > for RTC, it seems to be going well.
> 
> I always translate RTC as "we don't trust you, so somebody else must
> approve anything you do."
> 
> To me, that is a lousy basis for creating a community. Trust and peer
> respect should be the basis, which implies CTR. I have seen many excuses
> for RTC, but they all are just window dressing over mistrust.

While I tend to agree with you, it worth noting that there's a whole bunch of
TLPs sticking to RTC.  So, this data point doesn't reflect on the podling in
question.

Cos

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