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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:24:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator
From: Jake Farrell <jfarrell@apache.org>
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
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According to the incubator proposal guide for project naming [1] it is
"important
to ensure a suitable project name
<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> and
product names sometime during incubation, it is not necessary to do this
prior to entering incubation. In fact, be careful not to disrupt your
proposal and entry process". Since Bertrand has stated his concerns and
that his -1 is not blocking to the project entering incubation and we have
had no other objections (both here, board@, and private@mesos) I see no
reason to not continue to move forward with this proposal.

I will leave the vote window open until the end of today to give anyone who
has not voted the chance to do so and weigh in and cast a vote. In doing so
I ask that everyone please keep votes and comments focused to the proposal
and projects purpose and no additional bikeshedding around the project name.

-Jake

[1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#name


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
wrote:

> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:15 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ...My fear is that with all the concerns that given all the concerns
> that have been raised, the
> > board my not accept it come time for graduation....
>
> Indeed. The "separate thread on board@" that Jake mentions was me
> polling the board to see if there might be objections to the name at
> graduation time. Although the answer is not black and white, a lot of
> concerns have been raised regarding the high potential for confusion
> between the Mesos and Mysos names. So I'd say the're a reasonable
> probability of the board rejecting the name at graduation time. But
> depending on how long incubation goes it might not be the same board
> as today, so that's all hypothetical anyway.
>
> This is not about trademarks or lawyers, just a practical concern as
> the confusion is not helpful for either project.
>
> > ...I don't think the naming issue should block Mysos from entering
> incubation; I just think
> > the project should address the issue early....
>
> Absolutely, changing the name later is fine and I'm not against the
> project incubating, not at all. But if the name has to change anyway,
> it's much easier to change it before any infrastructure is created.
>
> The goal of my -1 is just to express my disapproval of the name, and
> I've made it clear that that -1 does not prevent the project from
> entering incubation, as this is a majority vote. It just felt wrong to
> me to vote +1 as I think the name Mysos is a bad idea.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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