Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6481418C25 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 00:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73327 invoked by uid 500); 23 May 2015 00:31:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 73136 invoked by uid 500); 23 May 2015 00:31:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 73125 invoked by uid 99); 23 May 2015 00:31:24 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 May 2015 00:31:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id F0C091A31AB for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 00:31:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.88 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.88 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, KAM_THEBAT=1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Em6ipQNnG24m for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 00:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fep22.mx.upcmail.net (fep22.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.42]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTP id B0AC4453EF for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 00:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viefep22-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20150523003101.WPQH16233.viefep22-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net> for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 02:31:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([80.99.73.144]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id XCX01q00v36n4dc01CX0tq; Sat, 23 May 2015 02:31:01 +0200 X-SourceIP: 80.99.73.144 Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 02:30:54 +0200 From: Daniel Dekany X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.2.36.4) Professional Reply-To: Daniel Dekany X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1926035024.20150523023054@freemail.hu> To: Ted Dunning Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal In-Reply-To: References: <05AD6383-A92F-4878-A5A5-62BE4C4E35C9@dslextreme.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That's a good point. And these are also the things that are good fits for new committers (as opposed to evolving the core). With similar logic I'm looking for people who want to focus on improving Spring MVC integration for example. Or even Sturts integration (last time I saw it, it made no justice for FM). Now it might sounds like a chicken-egg problem (if *I* don't do it, there will be no committers, etc.), but of course I try to stick to core development in the little time I find for Freemarker. So finding contributors for these kind of "extension" and tooling stuff is one thing I hope for in this process. Saturday, May 23, 2015, 1:04:57 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > As an interesting aside, increasing the scope of Freemarker might improve > sexiness. > > Consider extending to be a Scala templating engine. Or some similar small > effort that ropes in a new community. > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Jacopo Cappellato < > jacopo.cappellato@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Some misc comments on the great feedback we have received so far (thanks >> to all for your help and interest): >> >> * Sergio, Ralph, we are happy to have you as mentors of Freemarker. I have >> edited the proposal document to include you in the mentors group; five >> mentors is plenty, so we should be good under this aspect. Jacques, you >> offered to mentor in another thread; thanks but for mentoring it's required >> to be a member of the IPMC or of the ASF >> >> * I agree with Bertrand and Ted that it will be mandatory for this project >> to build a larger community: in fact we are aware about this and are >> determined to work hard to grow an healthy (even if small) community, if we >> will be accepted in the Incubator; some good ideas have been proposed in >> this thread by John and Chris about how to do this and we will discuss >> other ideas as well >> >> * Julian and Ralph mentioned Velocity as a somewhat similar project; it is >> definitely true that there are similarities in scope (they are both Java >> template engines) but we don't think that merging them would be a good fit >> because there are big differences in the architecture, codebase, philosophy >> and history; as you have suggested we are going to include a sentence that >> explains the relationship with Velocity in our proposal >> >> Regards, >> >> Jacopo >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> >> -- Thanks, Daniel Dekany --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org