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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal
From: Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com>
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Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 17:44:03 -0700
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I used to use Apache Velocity. However, it hasn=E2=80=99t had a release =
since 2010 and the overall project activity has been minimal for years. =
As a consequence of that, and a feature that was missing, I recently =
switched to using Freemarker for some templating work I needed to do. =
The only reason I mention Velocity is I am wondering what relationship =
these two projects should have, if any.  I am also concerned that if =
interest in development of Freemarker is decreasing is it going to =
suffer the same fate?  I guess what I am wondering is if there is some =
way these two communities and/or technologies could combine?

FWIW, I=E2=80=99d be happy to mentor this project. If I had the time I =
know I=E2=80=99d want to commit, but that has been in extremely short =
supply of late.

Ralph


> On May 21, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com> =
wrote:
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> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
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>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Sergio Fern=C3=A1ndez =
<wikier@apache.org> wrote:
>>> ...If you'd need any other mentor, I'm happy to help there (I'm =
Incubator PMC
>>> and ASF Member)...
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>> Currently I see three mentors and two committers at
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FreemarkerProposal, I'm not =
involved
>> in that podling but it looks to me that additional committers might =
be
>> more useful than more mentors.
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> 4 Mentors is a good number, though!
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> It's true that there aren't many initial committers, but the proposal
> addresses this issue at length.
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>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FreemarkerProposal#Known_Risks
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>    While it continues to have a large user base, the active developer
>    community has become rather small at this point, and we think that =
the
>    "Apache Way" governance model and being part of the ASF (together =
with
>    other projects that are already using Freemarker) would help to =
bring new
>    life and energy to the project to better support the maintenance =
and
>    improvements of the Freemarker codebase.
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> I think this is a reasonable plan and definitely worth a shot at =
incubating.
> The Incubator has a mixed history with podlings that start small, but
> Freemarker has an advantage over many of those because it begins with =
a large
> user base and wide adoption.
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> Marvin Humphrey
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