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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Freemarker Incubation proposal
Date Fri, 22 May 2015 03:16:11 GMT
Incubation is a fine idea here.  I think that the project is at high risk
of not making it to top-level because of the voting requirements, but if
the committer and PMC can be built, it should be a fine (quiet) project.

And it should never be viewed as a failure or even a problem for a project
to leave incubation in some other direction than as a top-level project.
Apache is right for some and not for others.



On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com>
wrote:

> I used to use Apache Velocity. However, it hasn’t had a release since 2010
> and the overall project activity has been minimal for years. As a
> consequence of that, and a feature that was missing, I recently switched to
> using Freemarker for some templating work I needed to do. The only reason I
> mention Velocity is I am wondering what relationship these two projects
> should have, if any.  I am also concerned that if interest in development
> of Freemarker is decreasing is it going to suffer the same fate?  I guess
> what I am wondering is if there is some way these two communities and/or
> technologies could combine?
>
> FWIW, I’d be happy to mentor this project. If I had the time I know I’d
> want to commit, but that has been in extremely short supply of late.
>
> Ralph
>
>
> > On May 21, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> > <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Sergio Fernández <wikier@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> ...If you'd need any other mentor, I'm happy to help there (I'm
> Incubator PMC
> >>> and ASF Member)...
> >>
> >> Currently I see three mentors and two committers at
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FreemarkerProposal, I'm not involved
> >> in that podling but it looks to me that additional committers might be
> >> more useful than more mentors.
> >
> > 4 Mentors is a good number, though!
> >
> > It's true that there aren't many initial committers, but the proposal
> > addresses this issue at length.
> >
> >    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FreemarkerProposal#Known_Risks
> >
> >    While it continues to have a large user base, the active developer
> >    community has become rather small at this point, and we think that the
> >    "Apache Way" governance model and being part of the ASF (together with
> >    other projects that are already using Freemarker) would help to bring
> new
> >    life and energy to the project to better support the maintenance and
> >    improvements of the Freemarker codebase.
> >
> > I think this is a reasonable plan and definitely worth a shot at
> incubating.
> > The Incubator has a mixed history with podlings that start small, but
> > Freemarker has an advantage over many of those because it begins with a
> large
> > user base and wide adoption.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
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