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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:56:39 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC
From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
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On 24 April 2015 at 14:47, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:

> On 4/23/15 5:41 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> > Infra already  supports Whimsy so having a TLP is irrelevant in that
> > respect (although on reason Sam is doing this is because infra
> > expressed a concern about maintaining a service that only had Sam
> > working on it).
>
> To be clear: is the current whimsy.apache.org with a variety of board
> agenda, email lookup, etc. services a formally infra-supported service?
>  Just curious.  I would lobby that it should be formally supported at a
> normal level (i.e. it's not critical level like email/svn is).
> (Apologies if we already formally talked about this)
>
if you look at the infra ML, it is not full support like e.g. the mail
server, but merely
a "restart it" help. That was the reason for my question in order to have a
fully
supported service (upgrades, bug fixes in response to OS upgrades etc,
maintaining
the vm as such), infra might have wishes to the project.


>
> The service is separate from the TLP status.  We run the service to help
> our own project operations, which we'll do in any case.  The presumed
> pTLP would be to develop the code; I could easily imagine some of the
> code being useful as examples outside of the ASF.  Being a pTLP would
> also make development easier for newcomers, since code/mailinglists/etc.
> would all be normalized with other projects.
>
I thought the pTLP was also there to help in case of OS upgrades and other
external
things that might affect the running whimsy service.

rgds
jan i.


>
> I'm +1 and will join.
>
> - Shane
>
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:32 PM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC
> >
> > On Thursday, April 23, 2015, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Initial sketch placed on the wiki:
> >>
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhimsyProposal
> >>
> >> Anyone who is so inclined is welcome to edit the proposal directly.
> >>
> >> No urgency or timeframe in mind (other than preferably starting
> >> sometime in 2015ish).  My current thinking is to follow in Steve's
> >> footprints and go directly to TLP, but I'm starting a discussion here
> >> (in Incubator) to see if there are any other thoughts on the matter.
> >
> > I like the proposal, it is very clear, I do miss one bit though.
> >
> > If this becomes a TLP project is infra then prepared to support keeping
> whimsy running 24/7, or do they have additional requirements on the project?
> >
> > maybe the response to the above could be worked into the proposal.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i
> >
> >>
> >> - Sam Ruby
> >>
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