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From "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC
Date Tue, 28 Apr 2015 02:18:41 GMT
I’ll note that the only person I see from infra that has been proposed
in the current PMC is Jake Ferrel:

* Acquia: Jake Farrell

Someone also correct me in that I don’t think Jake is a paid infra
contractor.

In addition the way I see this is that it is no different e.g.,

than contributing upstream to FreeBSD or whatever - Infra contractors
may fix something and decide it’s in the ASF’s best interests to
contribute it upstream - same may happen for Whimsy. But to date,
ASF infra folk that are contractors I believe are not proposed to
be directly paid to contribute to Whimsy. Should they do so, great.
But in the famous words of Sam Ruby let’s deal with this if there
is an actual data point instead of hypotheticals.

Cheers,
Chris




-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:05 PM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

>On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a tough one. We could be setting a precedence here that we
>>absolutely
>> do not want to set. On the other hand, it's problematic (not to mention
>> simply ridiculous) if the foundation not being able to use Apache
>>software
>> because we don't pay for development and might want to submit a patch
>> upstream.
>>
>> As long as all committers are equal and earn their merit in the
>> traditional way I don't see a problem from the projects side. IN this
>> instance the ASF is just another contributor to the project.
>>
>> This means "the foundation never pays for development" to something like
>> "the foundation never pays for development except where the
>>modification is
>> made as part of our normal infrastructure operations. On these rare
>> occasions the foundation is just another employer and the contributor is
>> just another community member. Changes are contributed upstream through
>>the
>> normal contribution process. There is no special role for ASF infra
>> contractors."
>>
>
>The ASF pays for Infra contractors. Their job/role is to maintain our
>systems. Sometimes their duty *may* be to contribute software to $Project
>(wherever that may be).
>
>That is *very* distinct from paying a person to contribute directly to
>$ASFProject.
>
>Cheers,
>-g

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