Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E19541004D for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20000 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2015 18:42:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 19102 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2015 18:42:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 19074 invoked by uid 99); 4 Mar 2015 18:42:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:42:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bimargulies@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.181] (HELO mail-ob0-f181.google.com) (209.85.214.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:41:47 +0000 Received: by obcva2 with SMTP id va2so8816469obc.1 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/IpvAA8ewKZMoo2CBmabzD/j8Ubf0BDTZ4Qzx2xmPVw=; b=bvJziDdbOuAuaNvryNIxAsh3GOdDwet2n3ql1q8sQNPc0Wu1dy0xUiU4pb8v1B4PG4 rrGz+wE74Y7+17cCxsa/rk9JXiswQwmes79aXQZWDbY4OUXAMnC7QHgR5YfX5kPR8XGB jqpN9jRWB9vFN3LhQ4lyhyh3E0TF1DkZsNoExU25au02YlIVbyHht+ykrk1VXW75P398 6iQgdfCRtU/8qAFlT0JLyMXez6t10h8LkqxLJF45fig3vJ2MdggyiulnBXhrK8tsD/Aq Xxqu6ljIpA99z/Z5ar87WvtCyJu2nl9wyCUbohFWSCPGd1R4disN42DyiHZfBf/2FRWt j24w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.62.70 with SMTP id l67mr3838466oia.59.1425494505439; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.14.83 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 10:41:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 13:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document From: Benson Margulies To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Cc: board , Bertrand Delacretaz , Sam Ruby Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ce09aa0486105107acdbe X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a113ce09aa0486105107acdbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > At this point, I would like to open this document for soliciting as > > wide a feedback as possible. I would like to especially request > > attention of the ASF board members who asked for this type of > > a document to be available. > > As a director, I still don't think the board needs to be involved in a > pTLP's "graduation". As far as I'm concerned, any "provisional" > status is self-imposed by the PMC and can be removed at its pleasure. > From the board's perspective it's either an ASF project or it's not, > there's not a useful middle ground. As a project it needs to provide > reports, release according to accepted standards, operate openly, etc. > It may be a young project, with a PMC dominated by old-timers who > aren't responsible for much of the contribution, but I don't see why > that requires a new formal status any more than we need a formal > status for old, slow-moving projects that rarely release. > > Put directly, what does a pTLP's "graduation" change from the board's > perspective? How should it change the way we review the project's > reports, etc.? In short, why should we care about this label? If a > PMC wishes to call itself "blue" that's fine too, but we don't need a > resolution when it decides to call itself "purple". > What's your view of 'incubation disclaimers'? The above paragraph makes most sense to me if there are none for pTLPs. > > Doug > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --001a113ce09aa0486105107acdbe--