Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 238D3177C6 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91958 invoked by uid 500); 27 Mar 2015 17:06:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91767 invoked by uid 500); 27 Mar 2015 17:06:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91755 invoked by uid 99); 27 Mar 2015 17:06:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:06:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.111.4.26] (HELO out2-smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.26) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:06:07 +0000 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB074208DC for ; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:01:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=WMzTqw5UN43JTWg CBRzIGkDVFw4=; b=NDEcaqiIDWcYBQSO5Du7oAV1+Rp2BefUvbGkJPnFBSjPft0 o3SdhPZQxK+ce2yhZ56AD0Iem55zApvfVgOY2kEqC+tVjGCqezrl0dTuXGRp4GC9 6/smNw77/YQW2nau/8I6nWwhdsisTJaoPb3IWg7dcKXeq8fX6RSApes+iLpI= Received: by web4.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6A66410C701; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1427475692.1473949.246116253.727AF397@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: ziHE3rMRCfyekefkcrNXLLtFOw07lyvKODTBWXKynFiR 1427475692 From: Upayavira To: general@incubator.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-f437beda In-Reply-To: References: <5514402A.3040900@gmx.org> <20150326214446.GQ1657@boudnik.org> <55148668.6010907@apache.org> <5514F7EC.6040906@asert.com.au> <5515887B.7040201@shanecurcuru.org> Subject: Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there! Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:01:32 +0000 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Not that I=E2=80=99m aware of, but sending a pile of emails isn=E2=80=99t o= ut of this world complicated. If you gave me a list of email addresses of people who had explicitly said =E2=80=9Csubscribe me=E2=80=9D, I could do that very easily. Upayavira On Fri, Mar 27, 2015, at 04:57 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Do we have an option of using our ML infrastructure in such > a way that it sends folks an email asking to confirm their > willingness to be subscribed? This could solve this I think. >=20 > Thanks, > Roman. >=20 > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Shane Curcuru > wrote: > > This is obviously a question for the new podling's PPMC and the existing > > Groovy community mailing lists to decide, but in most other situations > > auto-subscribing people to a new list is usually a bad idea. > > > > I would definitely give people plenty of notice and clear instructions > > on how to unsubscribe before blindly moving subscriber lists from > > anywhere else to an Apache mailing list. Even better would be some way > > that people could explicitly opt-in to the new list by signing up > > somewhere (i.e. somewhere simpler than the ezmlm send subscribe mail, > > reply to the reply confirmation dance), and not auto-subscribing. > > > > But that's just my opinion. > > > > - Shane > > > > > > On 3/27/15 2:25 AM, Paul King wrote: > >> > >> Only users from the previous list will be added and there was an > >> assumption that all code/patches sent to that list would be Apache > >> licensed by default. So, not quite the same thing but as long as we wa= rn > >> people and tell them how to unsubscribe, I think auto subscribing them > >> would be OK? > >> > >> Cheers, Paul. > >> > >> On 27/03/2015 8:21 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > >>> Signing up to Apache list means the user is making an explicit act of > >>> joining a place where code (or pointers to code) sent is granted to > >>> Apache. > >>> > >>> Implicit subscription muddies the waters for contributions. > >>> > >>> Andy > >>> > >>> On 26/03/15 21:55, Ted Dunning wrote: > >>>> your loop is a fine solution. Just test it carefully ahead of time. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Konstantin Boudnik > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I think you can write a script to do a call to > >>>>> echo "subscribe" | mailx -s subscribe dev-subscribe-john=3D > >>>>> host.domain@groovy.incubator.apache.org > >>>>> via the list of current list subscribers. > >>>>> > >>>>> Or perhaps open a INFRA ticket and provide them with the list of em= ails > >>>>> addresses to be subscribed. > >>>>> > >>>>> There might be another way that I am unaware about though. Anyone? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cos > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:54PM, Guillaume Laforge wrote: > >>>>>> And how to add in batch the current subscribers of the old list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2015-03-26 21:29 GMT+01:00 C=C3=A9dric Champeau > >>>>>> : > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> BTW should we already update the links [1] on the website? How sh= ould > >>>>> we > >>>>>>> proceed to migrate/deprecate the Codehaus lists? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [1] http://groovy-lang.org/mailing-lists.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2015-03-26 20:34 GMT+01:00 C=C3=A9dric Champeau >>>>>> : > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I got them too. > >>>>>>>> Le 26 mars 2015 19:10, "Guillaume Laforge" a > >>>>> =C3=A9crit > >>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I also got moderation messages > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2015-03-26 18:51 GMT+01:00 Roman Shaposhnik : > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I don't. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Bayer < > >>>>>>> andrew.bayer@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Just making sure - others besides me are getting the subscribe > >>>>>>>>> moderation > >>>>>>>>>>> emails? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> A. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > >>>>>>>>>>> bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Jochen Theodorou < > >>>>>>> blackdrag@gmx.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...-subscribe@groovy.incubator.a.o ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of course yes, sorry - the names on INFRA-9339 are correct. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Bertrand > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.o= rg > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Laforge > >>>>>>>>> Groovy Project Manager > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ > >>>>>>>>> Social: @glaforge / Google+ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Guillaume Laforge > >>>>>> Groovy Project Manager > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ > >>>>>> Social: @glaforge / Google+ > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> http://www.avast.com > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org