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From Guillaume Laforge <glafo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!
Date Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:12:06 GMT
As a first step, I'll start with warning our users about that upcoming
change.

Also, I have a question.
So, the address during incubation is: dev@groovy.incubator.apache.org
But when we successfully get out of incubation, there will be an automatic
transfer to: dev@groovy.apache.org
Correct? No need to re-ask everybody to change mailing-lists again?

Guillaume

2015-03-27 18:02 GMT+01:00 Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk>:

> “do that” == “subscribe them"
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015, at 05:01 PM, Upayavira wrote:
> > Not that I’m aware of, but sending a pile of emails isn’t out of this
> > world complicated.
> >
> > If you gave me a list of email addresses of people who had explicitly
> > said “subscribe me”, I could do that very easily.
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015, at 04:57 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > > Do we have an option of using our ML infrastructure in such
> > > a way that it sends folks an email asking to confirm their
> > > willingness to be subscribed? This could solve this I think.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Roman.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > This is obviously a question for the new podling's PPMC and the
> existing
> > > > Groovy community mailing lists to decide, but in most other
> situations
> > > > auto-subscribing people to a new list is usually a bad idea.
> > > >
> > > > I would definitely give people plenty of notice and clear
> instructions
> > > > on how to unsubscribe before blindly moving subscriber lists from
> > > > anywhere else to an Apache mailing list.  Even better would be some
> way
> > > > that people could explicitly opt-in to the new list by signing up
> > > > somewhere (i.e. somewhere simpler than the ezmlm send subscribe mail,
> > > > reply to the reply confirmation dance), and not auto-subscribing.
> > > >
> > > > But that's just my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > - Shane
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/27/15 2:25 AM, Paul King wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Only users from the previous list will be added and there was an
> > > >> assumption that all code/patches sent to that list would be Apache
> > > >> licensed by default. So, not quite the same thing but as long as we
> warn
> > > >> people and tell them how to unsubscribe, I think auto subscribing
> them
> > > >> would be OK?
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers, Paul.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 27/03/2015 8:21 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> > > >>> Signing up to Apache list means the user is making an explicit
act
> of
> > > >>> joining a place where code (or pointers to code) sent is granted
to
> > > >>> Apache.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Implicit subscription muddies the waters for contributions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>      Andy
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 26/03/15 21:55, Ted Dunning wrote:
> > > >>>> your loop is a fine solution.  Just test it carefully ahead
of
> time.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> cos@apache.org>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I think you can write a script to do a call to
> > > >>>>>      echo "subscribe" | mailx -s subscribe dev-subscribe-john=
> > > >>>>> host.domain@groovy.incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>>> via the list of current list subscribers.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Or perhaps open a INFRA ticket and provide them with the
list of
> emails
> > > >>>>> addresses to be subscribed.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There might be another way that I am unaware about though.
> Anyone?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cos
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:54PM, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> > > >>>>>> And how to add in batch the current subscribers of
the old list.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 2015-03-26 21:29 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau
> > > >>>>>> <cedric.champeau@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> BTW should we already update the links [1] on
the website? How
> should
> > > >>>>> we
> > > >>>>>>> proceed to migrate/deprecate the Codehaus lists?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> [1] http://groovy-lang.org/mailing-lists.html
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 2015-03-26 20:34 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau <
> cedric.champeau@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I got them too.
> > > >>>>>>>> Le 26 mars 2015 19:10, "Guillaume Laforge"
<
> glaforge@gmail.com> a
> > > >>>>> écrit
> > > >>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I also got moderation messages
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> 2015-03-26 18:51 GMT+01:00 Roman Shaposhnik
<
> roman@shaposhnik.org>:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I don't.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM,
Andrew Bayer <
> > > >>>>>>> andrew.bayer@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Just making sure - others besides
me are getting the
> subscribe
> > > >>>>>>>>> moderation
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> emails?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> A.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22
AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21
PM, Jochen Theodorou <
> > > >>>>>>> blackdrag@gmx.org
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...<listname>-subscribe@groovy.incubator.a.o
?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of course yes, sorry - the
names on INFRA-9339 are
> correct.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Bertrand
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
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