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From Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
Subject Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!
Date Fri, 27 Mar 2015 16:57:03 GMT
Do we have an option of using our ML infrastructure in such
a way that it sends folks an email asking to confirm their
willingness to be subscribed? This could solve this I think.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> This is obviously a question for the new podling's PPMC and the existing
> Groovy community mailing lists to decide, but in most other situations
> auto-subscribing people to a new list is usually a bad idea.
>
> I would definitely give people plenty of notice and clear instructions
> on how to unsubscribe before blindly moving subscriber lists from
> anywhere else to an Apache mailing list.  Even better would be some way
> that people could explicitly opt-in to the new list by signing up
> somewhere (i.e. somewhere simpler than the ezmlm send subscribe mail,
> reply to the reply confirmation dance), and not auto-subscribing.
>
> But that's just my opinion.
>
> - Shane
>
>
> On 3/27/15 2:25 AM, Paul King wrote:
>>
>> Only users from the previous list will be added and there was an
>> assumption that all code/patches sent to that list would be Apache
>> licensed by default. So, not quite the same thing but as long as we warn
>> people and tell them how to unsubscribe, I think auto subscribing them
>> would be OK?
>>
>> Cheers, Paul.
>>
>> On 27/03/2015 8:21 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>> Signing up to Apache list means the user is making an explicit act of
>>> joining a place where code (or pointers to code) sent is granted to
>>> Apache.
>>>
>>> Implicit subscription muddies the waters for contributions.
>>>
>>>      Andy
>>>
>>> On 26/03/15 21:55, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>> your loop is a fine solution.  Just test it carefully ahead of time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think you can write a script to do a call to
>>>>>      echo "subscribe" | mailx -s subscribe dev-subscribe-john=
>>>>> host.domain@groovy.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> via the list of current list subscribers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or perhaps open a INFRA ticket and provide them with the list of emails
>>>>> addresses to be subscribed.
>>>>>
>>>>> There might be another way that I am unaware about though. Anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cos
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:54PM, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>>>> And how to add in batch the current subscribers of the old list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-03-26 21:29 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau
>>>>>> <cedric.champeau@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW should we already update the links [1] on the website? How
should
>>>>> we
>>>>>>> proceed to migrate/deprecate the Codehaus lists?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://groovy-lang.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-03-26 20:34 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau <cedric.champeau@gmail.com
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got them too.
>>>>>>>> Le 26 mars 2015 19:10, "Guillaume Laforge" <glaforge@gmail.com>
a
>>>>> écrit
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also got moderation messages
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-26 18:51 GMT+01:00 Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Bayer <
>>>>>>> andrew.bayer@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Just making sure - others besides me are getting
the subscribe
>>>>>>>>> moderation
>>>>>>>>>>> emails?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<
>>>>>>>>>>> bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Jochen Theodorou
<
>>>>>>> blackdrag@gmx.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...<listname>-subscribe@groovy.incubator.a.o
?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> of course yes, sorry - the names on INFRA-9339
are correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bertrand
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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