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From Shane Curcuru <...@shanecurcuru.org>
Subject Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!
Date Fri, 27 Mar 2015 16:42:35 GMT
This is obviously a question for the new podling's PPMC and the existing
Groovy community mailing lists to decide, but in most other situations
auto-subscribing people to a new list is usually a bad idea.

I would definitely give people plenty of notice and clear instructions
on how to unsubscribe before blindly moving subscriber lists from
anywhere else to an Apache mailing list.  Even better would be some way
that people could explicitly opt-in to the new list by signing up
somewhere (i.e. somewhere simpler than the ezmlm send subscribe mail,
reply to the reply confirmation dance), and not auto-subscribing.

But that's just my opinion.

- Shane


On 3/27/15 2:25 AM, Paul King wrote:
> 
> Only users from the previous list will be added and there was an
> assumption that all code/patches sent to that list would be Apache
> licensed by default. So, not quite the same thing but as long as we warn
> people and tell them how to unsubscribe, I think auto subscribing them
> would be OK?
> 
> Cheers, Paul.
> 
> On 27/03/2015 8:21 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> Signing up to Apache list means the user is making an explicit act of
>> joining a place where code (or pointers to code) sent is granted to
>> Apache.
>>
>> Implicit subscription muddies the waters for contributions.
>>
>>      Andy
>>
>> On 26/03/15 21:55, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>> your loop is a fine solution.  Just test it carefully ahead of time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you can write a script to do a call to
>>>>      echo "subscribe" | mailx -s subscribe dev-subscribe-john=
>>>> host.domain@groovy.incubator.apache.org
>>>> via the list of current list subscribers.
>>>>
>>>> Or perhaps open a INFRA ticket and provide them with the list of emails
>>>> addresses to be subscribed.
>>>>
>>>> There might be another way that I am unaware about though. Anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Cos
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:54PM, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>>> And how to add in batch the current subscribers of the old list.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-03-26 21:29 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau
>>>>> <cedric.champeau@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW should we already update the links [1] on the website? How should
>>>> we
>>>>>> proceed to migrate/deprecate the Codehaus lists?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://groovy-lang.org/mailing-lists.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-03-26 20:34 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champeau <cedric.champeau@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got them too.
>>>>>>> Le 26 mars 2015 19:10, "Guillaume Laforge" <glaforge@gmail.com>
a
>>>> écrit
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also got moderation messages
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-03-26 18:51 GMT+01:00 Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Bayer <
>>>>>> andrew.bayer@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just making sure - others besides me are getting
the subscribe
>>>>>>>> moderation
>>>>>>>>>> emails?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<
>>>>>>>>>> bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Jochen Theodorou
<
>>>>>> blackdrag@gmx.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...<listname>-subscribe@groovy.incubator.a.o
?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of course yes, sorry - the names on INFRA-9339
are correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Bertrand
>>>>>>>>>>>
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