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From: "John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org>
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 13:01:35 +0000
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
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On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

> We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
>
>
Yep, added a retired section.

John


> On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>
> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So, at this point, is this resolved?  I may have missed the final
> >> resolution summary.
> >>
> >>
> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote.  I just retired
> them
> > from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
> > unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
> >
> >
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> >>> for the NPanday poddling.
> >>>
> >>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> >>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> >>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> >>>    http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> >>>    http://s.apache.org/Efn
> >>>
> >>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> >>>   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> >>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> >>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> >>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> >>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> >>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> >>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> >>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> >>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> >>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> >>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> >>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> >>> the usual levels:
> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> >>> while missing Incubator reports:
> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> >>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> >>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> >>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
> >>>
> >>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> >>>   http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> >>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> >>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> >>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> >>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
> >>>
> >>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
> >>>
> >>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> >>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> >>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> >>> because ...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Roman.
> >>>
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