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From Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Should Sirona be monthly?
Date Sun, 22 Feb 2015 23:11:38 GMT
On 23 February 2015 at 03:07, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:

> On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 10:38:23 AM Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:
> > > I don't see any comments here: http://wiki.apache.org/
> > incubator/February2015
> >
> > I'm the one who categorized Sirona under "Report incomplete" in the
> > "Summary
> > of podling reports" section:
> >
> >   * Report incomplete
> >
> >       Sirona
> >
> > I honestly thought Sirona's report was a work in progress when I did that
> > because several sections had been left blank.
> >
> > > So I wonder what sort of administrative stuff is missing?...
> >
> > It's not "administrative stuff" that's missing.  The problem is that
> until
> > Matt filed his Shepherd review, there was literally nothing in the report
> > describing the state of the Sirona community.
> >
> > The following sections were left empty:
> >
> > *   `Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> >     graduation:`
> > *   `How has the community developed since the last report?`
> > *   `When were the last committers or PMC members elected?`
> >
> > (The full report is pasted below my sig for reference.)
> >
> > The Board consistently follows up after TLPs who neglect to answer that
> > last
> > question.  If the Incubator teaches that such reports are acceptable, I
> > don't
> > think it's doing a very good job because such reports are unlikely to be
> > acceptable to the Board.
> >
>
> That's actually why I raised my question.  I had assumed the board would
> have flagged Sirona as not having a complete report and expected it again
> next month, yet I saw nothing mentioned in the board report (probably
> because there was a high volume of missing reports, this one skirted by?)
> about Sirona's not being accepted.
>
>
> >
> > However, when I flagged Sirona in the draft report review thread, nobody
> > responded.  In the absence of IPMC consensus that Sirona's report was
> > unacceptable, I opted to defer to the Sirona Mentors who signed off and
> did
> > not pursue the matter further.
> >
> > And that's where I think we leave things regarding the subject of this
> > thread,
> > "Should Sirona be monthly?": Sirona should not be required to report next
> > month, in deference to its Mentors.
> >
>
> And that's where I'm struggling a bit with Sirona.  Olivier's the active
> guy on the project, PPMC and Mentor.  OpenHub and GitHub agree
>
> https://github.com/apache/sirona/graphs/contributors
> https://www.openhub.net/p/sirona/contributors
>
> You can even see in Olivier's email to the dev alias that he considered the
> report to be incomplete (only started).
>
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/sirona-dev/201502.mbox/%3CCAPoyBqSRbOv6Y3pkQMqkCjzz3wOhqrV0yHrEyX4aNaP_FsvfEw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> Thoughts?
>

I missed to answer to my own email saying that's finished.
Sorry I reckon I'm really bad on administrative papers things....


Olivier


>
> John
>
>
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
> > --------------------
> > Sirona
> >
> > Monitoring Solution.
> >
> > Sirona has been incubating since 2013-10-15.
> >
> > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> >
> >   1.
> >   2.
> >   3.
> >
> > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > aware of?
> >
> >   None
> >
> > How has the community developed since the last report?
> >
> >
> >
> > How has the project developed since the last report?
> >
> >   Some refactoring of the UI.  A contributor made some development to
> have
> >   some features still working with java 1.5
> >
> > Date of last release:
> >
> >   2014-06-26
> >
> > When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
> >
> >
> >
> > Signed-off-by:
> >
> >   [x](sirona) Olivier Lamy
> >   [ ](sirona) Henri Gomez
> >   [x](sirona) Jean-Baptiste Onofre
> >   [ ](sirona) Tammo van Lessen
> >   [ ](sirona) Mark Struberg
> >
> > Shepherd/Mentor notes:
> >
> >   Matthew B. Franklin (mfranklin):
> >
> >     Lot's of code is being committed to the project, but mostly by a
> > couple of
> >     developers.  There also does not appear to be much discussion on the
> > list
> >     in last period, likely  due to the low number of developers.
> >
> >     I recommend the podling focus on increasing the size and
> participation
> > of
> >     the community as one of the issues to address prior to graduation.
> >
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>



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