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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Should Sirona be monthly?
Date Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:07:09 GMT
On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 10:38:23 AM Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:
> > I don't see any comments here: http://wiki.apache.org/
> incubator/February2015
>
> I'm the one who categorized Sirona under "Report incomplete" in the
> "Summary
> of podling reports" section:
>
>   * Report incomplete
>
>       Sirona
>
> I honestly thought Sirona's report was a work in progress when I did that
> because several sections had been left blank.
>
> > So I wonder what sort of administrative stuff is missing?...
>
> It's not "administrative stuff" that's missing.  The problem is that until
> Matt filed his Shepherd review, there was literally nothing in the report
> describing the state of the Sirona community.
>
> The following sections were left empty:
>
> *   `Three most important issues to address in the move towards
>     graduation:`
> *   `How has the community developed since the last report?`
> *   `When were the last committers or PMC members elected?`
>
> (The full report is pasted below my sig for reference.)
>
> The Board consistently follows up after TLPs who neglect to answer that
> last
> question.  If the Incubator teaches that such reports are acceptable, I
> don't
> think it's doing a very good job because such reports are unlikely to be
> acceptable to the Board.
>

That's actually why I raised my question.  I had assumed the board would
have flagged Sirona as not having a complete report and expected it again
next month, yet I saw nothing mentioned in the board report (probably
because there was a high volume of missing reports, this one skirted by?)
about Sirona's not being accepted.


>
> However, when I flagged Sirona in the draft report review thread, nobody
> responded.  In the absence of IPMC consensus that Sirona's report was
> unacceptable, I opted to defer to the Sirona Mentors who signed off and did
> not pursue the matter further.
>
> And that's where I think we leave things regarding the subject of this
> thread,
> "Should Sirona be monthly?": Sirona should not be required to report next
> month, in deference to its Mentors.
>

And that's where I'm struggling a bit with Sirona.  Olivier's the active
guy on the project, PPMC and Mentor.  OpenHub and GitHub agree

https://github.com/apache/sirona/graphs/contributors
https://www.openhub.net/p/sirona/contributors

You can even see in Olivier's email to the dev alias that he considered the
report to be incomplete (only started).

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/sirona-dev/201502.mbox/%3CCAPoyBqSRbOv6Y3pkQMqkCjzz3wOhqrV0yHrEyX4aNaP_FsvfEw%40mail.gmail.com%3E

Thoughts?

John


>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> --------------------
> Sirona
>
> Monitoring Solution.
>
> Sirona has been incubating since 2013-10-15.
>
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>
>   1.
>   2.
>   3.
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
>   None
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
>
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
>   Some refactoring of the UI.  A contributor made some development to have
>   some features still working with java 1.5
>
> Date of last release:
>
>   2014-06-26
>
> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
>
>
>
> Signed-off-by:
>
>   [x](sirona) Olivier Lamy
>   [ ](sirona) Henri Gomez
>   [x](sirona) Jean-Baptiste Onofre
>   [ ](sirona) Tammo van Lessen
>   [ ](sirona) Mark Struberg
>
> Shepherd/Mentor notes:
>
>   Matthew B. Franklin (mfranklin):
>
>     Lot's of code is being committed to the project, but mostly by a
> couple of
>     developers.  There also does not appear to be much discussion on the
> list
>     in last period, likely  due to the low number of developers.
>
>     I recommend the podling focus on increasing the size and participation
> of
>     the community as one of the issues to address prior to graduation.
>
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