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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Date Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:16:43 GMT
Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some
basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-)

John

On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:06:51 PM Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:01 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
> >>
> >>
> > Yep, added a retired section.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So, at this point, is this resolved?  I may have missed the final
> >> >> resolution summary.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote.  I just retired
> >> them
> >> > from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
> >> > unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> >> >>> for the NPanday poddling.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> >> >>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> >> >>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> >> >>>    http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> >> >>>    http://s.apache.org/Efn
> >> >>>
> >> >>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> >> >>>   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> >> >>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> >> >>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> >> >>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> >> >>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> >> >>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> >> >>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> >> >>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> >> >>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> >> >>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> >> >>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> >> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> >> >>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> >> >>> the usual levels:
> >> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> >> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
> npanday-commits/
> >> >>>    http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
> npanday-users/
> >> >>> while missing Incubator reports:
> >> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> >> >>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> >> >>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> >> >>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> >> >>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> >> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> >> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> >> >>>   http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> >> >>>   http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> >> >>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> >> >>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> >> >>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> >> >>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> >> >>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> >> >>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> >> >>> because ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Roman.
> >> >>>
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