Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0F84CCE4 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16570 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2015 16:13:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16387 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2015 16:13:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16020 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jan 2015 16:13:06 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:13:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (nike.apache.org: transitioning domain of list@toolazydogs.com does not designate 209.85.192.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.192.170] (HELO mail-pd0-f170.google.com) (209.85.192.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:12:40 +0000 Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id v10so28508147pde.1 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:11:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=odd+qfyOjOGSEth5taH0CID+5nPS3Q0Op9B3YnId8f8=; b=WNRF+XzB/ikwub+auwc6fLFKcdoBgpoqStj/L9OCdiGUS4Ns6q3o/nT+HdBBoXdGzw L0mmvp+uqw7RdnxltDpm8b7nwD/WzcJexXpSbLDS/ejFOpKXAPB9DWM/GE1CEcUCfX6X +M1AbQgJsqY/DS7dyTvPaNpKDAiDUU/8a6jwYCBhDSQduQVLjkksOUIhv+rER8XA+c+W n8zaRSRac62H0ChzlP2aEjaZX7dsPAjgeKaGIS+Uid+asU3nTuEkS8ph6sLpw3a4qy/u d6UdjMfq0OtFt0sdRxQ7pGtIESpsWHx0rx2YayinFY9khCG9CgCGLIJ5ULwTX/XrmWTK lVHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkvSwOizQVxxJ044tCtOTx46QRBZbDYcSQd5eGl49dkPUjps774kJqcuninkeNphLM2Caw9 X-Received: by 10.68.189.105 with SMTP id gh9mr145695353pbc.142.1420474313778; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2620:119:5000:3000:8a30:bf2b:25ac:e85f? ([2620:119:5000:3000:8a30:bf2b:25ac:e85f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rv6sm55031749pab.9.2015.01.05.08.11.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:11:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: pTLP, concretely From: "Alan D. Cabrera" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:11:51 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Benson Margulies = wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Benson Margulies = wrote: >>> ...This scheme locates >>> that responsibility in the renamed committee, which serves the board >>> by supervising the pTLPs. They aren't mentors, they are PMC = members... >>=20 >> Ok, but the board needs to accept those folks, and the incoming pTLP >> needs to locate 4-5 such folks that the board will accept. I bet that >> would result in "smaller" potential projects just fading away, which >> goes against our inclusive principles. >=20 > I agree. It painfully obvious (to me) that we don't have enough > qualified mentors to handle all the small projects that want to show > up. In my view, any move in any direction has to confront this. This, imo, is the crux of the problem. This proposal does not focus on = this issue other than to rename the roll. Regards, Alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org