Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DC2610C13 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24018 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jan 2015 15:51:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23820 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jan 2015 15:51:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23809 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jan 2015 15:51:00 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:51:00 +0000 Received: from mail-we0-f180.google.com (mail-we0-f180.google.com [74.125.82.180]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id ECDF51A0041 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m14so13195123wev.11 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:50:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.91.193 with SMTP id cg1mr48085944wib.26.1421769057842; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.44.197 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:50:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:50:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.) From: Bertrand Delacretaz To: Incubator General Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > ...Under the above proposals, that necessarily messy, frustrating, exhausting, process > of garnering consensus on the above thorny issues will not take place as philosophically > compatible IPM v2 members turn out Apache projects that fit their view.... Ok, I see your point now. Another reason for fixing things that need to fix instead of blowing up the whole thing just to see if it lands in a better shape. -Bertrand --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org