Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 946D310F41 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23540 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jan 2015 17:07:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23355 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jan 2015 17:07:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 23344 invoked by uid 99); 13 Jan 2015 17:07:46 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:07:46 +0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 4299E1A0234 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z12so4170558wgg.13 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:07:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.218.39 with SMTP id pd7mr505636wic.21.1421168862941; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:07:42 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: coheigea@apache.org Received: by 10.194.74.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:07:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54B5027F.5040102@apache.org> References: <93C0971F-888A-425D-A7B8-B1139412BBBC@gmail.com> <54B0089E.2050106@gmail.com> <535BEAE3-7075-47C7-82D2-84C461453351@toolazydogs.com> <54B5027F.5040102@apache.org> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:07:42 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE][Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION] From: Colm O hEigeartaigh To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134cd583dfd59050c8ba93d --001a1134cd583dfd59050c8ba93d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1. Colm. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote= : > +1 binding as well. > > > On 2015-01-10 07:07, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > >> +1 binding >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> From the conversation with Marko, he intended to submit this as a >>> formal vote, but didn't use the regular voting template. >>> >>> Voting will remain open until at least January 15, 2015 18:00 ET. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Hadrian >>> >>> >>> On 01/09/2015 11:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with >>>> support from: >>>> * David Nalley (champion) >>>> * Rich Bowen (mentor) >>>> * Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor) >>>> * Daniel Gruno (mentor) >>>> * Marko Rodriguez (submitting on behalf of TinkerPop) >>>> >>>> We feel it is now in prime shape from submission to vote. Enjoy!. >>>> (URL to wiki version: https://wiki.apache.org/ >>>> incubator/TinkerPopProposal) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A. Abstract >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is a graph computing framework >>>> written in Java. A graph >>> Graph_%28mathematics%29> is a data structure composed of vertices and >>>> edges and is useful for modeling complex domains with arbitrary relati= ons >>>> (edges, links, lines) between entities (vertices, objects, dots). Tink= erPop >>>> provides a core API that >>>> graph system vendors can implement. There are various types of graph >>>> systems including in-memory graph libraries, OLTP graph databases, and= OLAP >>>> graph processors (see On Graph Computing >>> 2013/01/09/on-graph-computing/> for more information). Once the core >>>> interfaces are implemented, the underlying graph system can be queried >>>> using the graph traversal language Gremlin and processed withTinkerPop= < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled algorithms. For >>>> many, TinkerPop is seen >>>> as the JDBC >>>> of the graph computing community. >>>> >>>> >>>> B. Proposal >>>> >>>> TinkerPop was formed in >>>> 2009 and is currently in the milestone series of 3.0.0. From the start= , >>>> TinkerPop has provided >>>> its software open source and free to use for which ever reason (commer= cial >>>> or otherwise). Initially the license was BSD, but as of TinkerPop3 < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>, the license was changed >>>> to Apache2. The TinkerPop >>>> team is composed of developers, evangelists, and representatives from = graph >>>> system vendors (see TinkerPop Contributors >>> docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/#tinkerpop-contributors> for more information). >>>> TinkerPop has done its >>>> best to remain vendor agnostic and works closely with all vendors to e= nsure >>>> that the constructs within TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> are able to accommodate the requirements of the >>>> underlying graph system. To date, 12 "TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> recognized" graph system >>>> vendors provide TinkerPop >>>> implementations. We believe that by joining The Apache Software Founda= tion, >>>> our vendors, users, and contributors will feel more comfortable in ter= ms of >>>> legal protected, in terms of wider-adoption, and in terms of project >>>> stability. >>>> >>>> >>>> C. Background >>>> >>>> TinkerPop has had >>>> steady, active development since 2009 when it was founded. Over the ye= ars, >>>> the Gremlin query language within TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> has been adopted by various JVM languages and as >>>> such, there exists Gremlin-Groovy, Gremlin-Scala, Gremlin-Clojure, >>>> Gremlin-JavaScript , and >>>> the like. In many ways, Gremlin is seen as a traversal style that can = be >>>> readily adopted within the programming constructs of the developer's n= ative >>>> language --- both on and off the JVM. TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is not bound to the JVM >>>> in that developers wishing to interact with a TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled graph system can >>>> leverage Gremlin Server which provides "over the wire" communication a= s >>>> well as the entry point for non-JVM language bindings. TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is being used is >>>> production graph-based applications around the world and is only getti= ng >>>> better with age. >>>> >>>> >>>> D. Rationale >>>> >>>> The graph computing space has grown over the years to encompass >>>> numerous graph database and graph processing systems. TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was created as a unifying >>>> framework for interoperability, language standardization, and data mod= el >>>> standardization. This framework makes it simple to "plug and play" the >>>> back-end graph implementation without affecting the developer's code. = This >>>> is analogous to the way in which the JDBC allows users to swap relatio= nal >>>> databases while keeping the same programming interface. TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> also brings together OLTP >>>> systems (graph databases) and OLAP systems (graph processors) by provi= ding >>>> a single query language (Gremlin) for executing graph algorithms >>>> transparently over either type of system. The seamless support of >>>> single-machine systems and distributed systems provides an identical >>>> end-user experience within the boundaries of the space and time constr= aints >>>> of the underlying graph system. >>>> >>>> >>>> E. Initial Goals >>>> >>>> The goal of this proposal is to migrate TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to The Apache Software >>>> Foundation to >>>> >>>> 1. get more exposure to the project >>>> 2. legally protect the developers and contributors of the project >>>> 3. >>>> ensure that TinkerPop >>>> has a >>>> vendor-neutral, stable home for the future >>>> >>>> >>>> F. Current Status >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is planning to >>>> release TinkerPop >>>> 3.0.0.GA early 2015. We would like to release TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA at the Apache >>>> Software Foundation. >>>> >>>> >>>> G. Meritocracy >>>> >>>> TinkerPop already has an >>>> established community that values meritocracy. Anyone is welcome to >>>> contribute to TinkerPop >>>> and voice their opinions/thoughts on the direction of the project. If = an >>>> individual provides beneficial pull requests, documentation updates, >>>> theoretical ideas, etc. then they are asked to join TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as committers. Moreover, >>>> TinkerPop is a business >>>> friendly community. It provides a forum where vendors collaborate, via >>>> individual representatives, by contributing ideas, code and content. >>>> >>>> We believe the values of the community align well with the ASF, and we >>>> are willing to adapt our practices when necessary. >>>> >>>> >>>> H. Community >>>> >>>> The TinkerPop mailing list >>> forum/#%21forum/gremlin-users> has 1500+ subscribers with a flow of >>>> approximately 10 emails a day. In addition to the initial committers t= here >>>> are about two dozen folks that have contributed code to the project, a= nd >>>> 1/2 of those are from Graph vendors. Note that there are individuals t= hat >>>> participate in the TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> ecosystem by providing language bindings and >>>> system implementations. While not contributing to the core codebase pe= r se, >>>> they supportTinkerPop >>>> via their software and lecture outreach. >>>> >>>> >>>> I. Core developers >>>> >>>> The initial committer list is small, and we hope to grow that into a >>>> larger, vibrant community at the Apache Software Foundation. >>>> >>>> >>>> J. Alignment >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is licensed >>>> Apache2. The OLAP reference implementation that distributes with Tinke= rPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is based on Hadoop < >>>> http://hadoop.apache.org/> and Giraph . >>>> There has been a push from vendors and commercial organizations intere= sted >>>> in ensuring TinkerPop >>>> has the legal support of a software foundation. We believe The Apache >>>> Software Foundation to be a great home for TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. >>>> >>>> >>>> K. Known Risks & Abandoned projects >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is currently >>>> at TinkerPop 3.0.0.M6. >>>> There is a significant amount of code developed since TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s inception. We have done >>>> our best to secure CLAs from contributors. To date did not have any le= gal >>>> or political issues. TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> has 12 official graph vendors that maintain or >>>> support a TinkerPop >>>> implementation for their system. If, lets say, 75% of those vendors de= cide >>>> against providing a TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> interface, then this would be detrimental to >>>> TinkerPop 's efforts. >>>> With that, it is very important that TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> remain neutral and >>>> engaged with vendors. >>>> >>>> >>>> L. Inexperience with Open Source >>>> >>>> The primary developers of TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> have been producing TinkerPop < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> open source code and >>>> releases in full public view since 2009 via both our GitHub < >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub> repository and our public >>>> mailing lists. We pride ourselves in professional software, documentat= ion, >>>> and aesthetics. With its integration to numerous graph systems in the >>>> market, we see TinkerPop >>>> as a masterpiece in the open source space. We are working with both op= en >>>> source and commercial entities to ensure a solid, respected product. >>>> >>>> >>>> M. Homogeneous Developers >>>> >>>> The initial set of committers all hail from different employers. >>>> >>>> >>>> N. Reliance on Salaried Developers >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is open source >>>> and no individual is paid for their contributions except for our logo >>>> designer. All the logos and documentation graphics are released Apache= 2. >>>> >>>> >>>> O. Relationships with Other Apache Projects >>>> >>>> TinkerPop currently >>>> leverages Hadoop, Giraph, and in the near future, will integrate with = Spark >>>> . Internally, the project leverages Maven3, >>>> Apache Configuration, and Apache Commons. >>>> >>>> >>>> P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is interested >>>> in The Apache Software Foundation for the legal support and protection= it >>>> can offer our developers. Numerous large software organizations have u= rged >>>> TinkerPop to join a >>>> foundation so that they may more easily provide contributors from thei= r >>>> organization and moreover, maintain confidence in building products at= op >>>> TinkerPop . With that >>>> said, TinkerPop does >>>> respect the Apache Software Foundation brand and believes that by join= ing >>>> The Apache Software Foundation, we will further boost the recognition = and >>>> prestige of our product. Finally, note that a TinkerPop book < >>>> http://www.tinkerpopbook.com/> is slated for 2015. Combining the >>>> Apache Software Foundation and a long awaited book should ensure a new >>>> uptake of contributors, users, vendors, and promoters. >>>> >>>> >>>> Q. Documentation >>>> >>>> TinkerPop takes pride in >>>> its documentation: >>>> >>>> AsciiDoc >>>> >>>> http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/ >>>> JavaDoc (core) >>>> >>>> http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/ >>>> JavaDoc (full) >>>> >>>> http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/ >>>> >>>> >>>> R. Initial Source >>>> >>>> TinkerPop is currently >>>> hosted on GitHub : >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/. >>>> >>>> The following repositories would like to be migrated to ASF. >>>> >>>> TinkerPop3 >>>> >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 >>>> Blueprints (TinkerPop2 ) >>>> >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints >>>> Pipes (TinkerPop2 ) >>>> >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes >>>> Frames (TinkerPop2 >>>> >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames >>>> Gremlin (TinkerPop2 ) >>>> >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin >>>> Rexster (TinkerPop2 ) >>>> >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster >>>> >>>> >>>> S. Source & Intellectual Property Submission Plan >>>> >>>> TinkerPop has required >>>> CLAs from contributors in the past to ensure solid IP provenance. Tink= erPop >>>> plans to submit a >>>> Software Grant for the content in the following repositories: >>>> https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 >>>> >>>> We plan to transfer to the ASF the TinkerPop >>> incubator/TinkerPop> trademark as well as the commissioned artwork for >>>> TinkerPop logos and the >>>> http://tinkerpop.com and http://tinkerpop.org = < >>>> http://tinkerpop.org/> domains. >>>> >>>> >>>> T. External Dependencies >>>> >>>> TinkerPop relies on a >>>> number of open source dependencies. We believe these to comply with th= e >>>> third-party licensing guidelines. If any dependencies are unfit, we wi= ll >>>> make the necessary changes. >>>> >>>> >>>> U. Cryptography >>>> >>>> None. >>>> >>>> >>>> V. Required Resources >>>> >>>> >>>> W. Mailing Lists >>>> >>>> TinkerPop requests the >>>> following mailing list: >>>> >>>> User Mailing List >>>> >>>> users@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >>> incubator.apache.org> >>>> Developer Mailing List >>>> >>>> dev@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >>> incubator.apache.org> >>>> Private Mailing List >>>> >>>> private@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >>> incubator.apache.org> >>>> Commits Mailing List >>>> >>>> commits@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >>> incubator.apache.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> X. Subversion Directory >>>> >>>> TinkerPop will use >>>> subversion for it=E2=80=99s website and requests: >>>> >>>> * >>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop >>>> >>>> >>>> Y. Git Repository >>>> >>>> TinkerPop wishes to have >>>> the following created: >>>> >>>> * >>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git >>>> >>>> And to have all of these mirrored to Github with integration taken car= e >>>> of. >>>> >>>> >>>> Z. Issue Tracking >>>> >>>> Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code >>>> review (TINKERPOP). >>>> >>>> >>>> AA. Initial Committers and Affiliations >>>> >>>> Marko A. Rodriguez (2009) >>>> >>>> Aurelius >>>> Stephen Mallette (2011) >>>> >>>> Nidomics >>>> James Thornton (2013) >>>> >>>> Electric Speed >>>> >>>> >>>> BB. Sponsors >>>> >>>> * Champion: David Nalley >>>> * Mentors: Rich Bowen, Matt Franklin, Daniel Gruno, David Nalley, >>>> Hadrian Zbarcea >>>> * Sponsoring Entity: We request the Incubator to sponsor this projec= t. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --=20 Colm O hEigeartaigh Talend Community Coder http://coders.talend.com --001a1134cd583dfd59050c8ba93d--