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On 08/01/15 16:48, Chip Childers wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 08:18:59PM -0800, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> Retiring the role of Champion sounds like an idea whose time has come.  We
>> gave the Champion additional oversight responsibilities a while back -- but
>> how many times since then has having that additional layer made a difference?
>
> My 2 cents:
>
> In my experience, the "Champion" is a useful concept for the purpose of
> having discussions with the incoming project's community *before* they
> become a podling. I've acted as a champion for one podling so far, as
> well as acted in this role for one community that ended up *not* wanting
> to incubate.
>
> I see this as a valuable activity (I don't care what it's called),
> because it's important that incoming projects understand what they are
> signing up for. As much as it's an investment for the ASF to accept
> podlings, it's an investment for the inbound communities to make the
> proposal.
>
> For the project that I acted as a Champion for, I considered that part
> of the work to be done when they became a podling. I also asked to be a
> mentor, and am doing so now... and being a mentor is a bit different
> from that initial introduction.
>
> In the end though, regardless of what we name things, podlings should
> have support from people here in the incubator from the time they start
> considering the move to the time they become a TLP.

+1

The other minor aspect of "champion" can making sure getting bootstrap 
happens quickly. Other mentors may not immediately be active, or as well 
known to the podling.  It is "admin" smoothing over the transition, not 
vital, but helpful.

	Andy


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