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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment
Date Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:36:00 GMT
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> There are a few things that I would suggest for "next steps":
> 1) Draft a template resolution. Starting in the wiki is fine, but you'll
> want to involve board@ when you have your first draft done. This will also
> start the discussion among the Directors (recall: the Board hasn't even
> agreed to try this!), and may produce some refinements.
> 2) Create a ComDev page discussing what it means to be a "provisional TLP".
> The disclaimers/warnings/release-naming should likely mirror what we do for
> incubating podlings.

+1000. This translates the idea of using ComDev as a venue for
managing documentation into reality. Writers here want to pave a path
for new projects outside the IPMC that depends on ComDev to take up
some tasks.  The sooner the action moves from 'here' to 'there',
bringing actual volunteer effort, the better.

> 3) Note that I use "provisional", since "probationary" implies you got in
> trouble.
> I wouldn't really worry about time frames. This will be a very subjective
> process, and every project is different. It will be hard to make a solid
> determination on day X in the future. If I were to put my thumb in the air,
> I'd say 6 and 12 months, rather than your 3/6.
> Cheers,
> -g
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> as I mentioned in a different thread, I feel really
>> passionate about championing the pTLP experiment.
>> To that end, here's what's going to happen shortly:
>>   #1 a couple of new projects that feel equally enthusiastic
>>        about trying a pTLP route (and have a level of support
>>        from a few board members) will submit a pTLP proposal
>>        to the board.
>>   #2 based on how #1 goes we will try to establish a path
>>        for existing (willing!) podlings to be converted to pTLP.
>>        A solicitation and details of what to expect will be posted
>>        on general@ with the expectations of having a couple
>>        existing podlings as part of the experiment
>> In about 3 months time frame, if #1 and #2 are moving in the
>> right direction, I'd like to start offering pTLP *option* for new
>> communities seeking to join ASF. By that time I hope to have
>> some amount of documentation detailing the process and pros/cons
>> compared to the existing IPMC led model.
>> In about 6 months time frame I would like to have enough details
>> in place to submit to IPMC and start a discussion on whether
>> pTLP is a viable model that needs to be encouraged and what
>> does it mean for IPMC and ASF Incubation process.
>> For all practical purposes, consider me a self-appointed pTLP
>> champion and please, please help along as much as you can!
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
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