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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What is "The Apache Way"?
Date Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:00:20 GMT
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:

> To be clear my email was not targeted at Marvin. We all know how hard
> Marvin has worked to create the clear policy documents I talk about here. I
> hope Marvin knows me well enough to recognize my debating style. This is
> not about *him* it's about the impression of the top down rules you
> describe below - as you seem to be implying that should not exist in the
> Apache Way apart from a few immutable areas and I agree.
>

Last for me for today: I recognize both of your debating styles, and my
reference to Marvin was a combination of my personal tendency to
conflict-aversion and an attempt, indeed, to distinguish between the narrow
area where there can or should be rules, and the broader area where we are
all discussing cultural diffusion without the use of initiation ceremonies.
I particularly want to highlight my view that the most important thing is
to know when you need help, and the other most important thing is for there
to be help available.

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