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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]
Date Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:16:17 GMT
On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:

> +0 then
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Gavin McDonald <gavin@16degrees.com.au
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On 10 Jan 2015, at 6:18 am, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > This still only has 3 committers.
> > >
> > > How is the project going to function with such a small group?  I don't
> > see that there has been a realistic answer to this question.
> >
> > It is part of the incubation process to help gain more, and again as a
> > tlp, an ongoing process.
> > Lots of TLPs have more committers, with only one or two actually active.


I too are concerned about the number of committers, but I believe the
project should have a chance of showing that it can grow. the revised
proposal looks quite a lot better.


+1 (binding)

rgds
jan i

> >
> > Gav…
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez <okrammarko@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > <mailto:okrammarko@gmail.com <javascript:;>>> wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with
> > support from:
> > >
> > >       * David Nalley (champion)
> > >       * Rich Bowen (mentor)
> > >       * Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor)
> > >       * Daniel Gruno (mentor)
> > >       * Marko Rodriguez (submitting on behalf of TinkerPop)
> > >
> > > We feel it is now in prime shape from submission to vote. Enjoy!.
> > >       (URL to wiki version:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal>)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A. Abstract
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <http://tinkerpop.com/> is a graph computing framework
> > written in Java. A graph <
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_%28mathematics%29> is a data
> structure
> > composed of vertices and edges and is useful for modeling complex domains
> > with arbitrary relations (edges, links, lines) between entities
> (vertices,
> > objects, dots). TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> > provides a core API that graph system vendors can implement. There are
> > various types of graph systems including in-memory graph libraries, OLTP
> > graph databases, and OLAP graph processors (see On Graph Computing <
> > http://markorodriguez.com/2013/01/09/on-graph-computing/> for more
> > information). Once the core interfaces are implemented, the underlying
> > graph system can be queried using the graph traversal language Gremlin
> and
> > processed withTinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop
> >-enabled
> > algorithms. For many, TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is seen as the JDBC <
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Database_Connectivity> of the graph
> > computing community.
> > >
> > >
> > > B. Proposal
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was formed in
> > 2009 and is currently in the milestone series of 3.0.0. From the start,
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has provided its
> > software open source and free to use for which ever reason (commercial or
> > otherwise). Initially the license was BSD, but as of TinkerPop3 <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>, the license was changed
> to
> > Apache2. The TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> team
> > is composed of developers, evangelists, and representatives from graph
> > system vendors (see TinkerPop Contributors <
> > http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/#tinkerpop-contributors>
> for
> > more information). TinkerPop <
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> > has done its best to remain vendor agnostic and works closely with all
> > vendors to ensure that the constructs within TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> are able to accommodate the
> > requirements of the underlying graph system. To date, 12 "TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> recognized" graph system
> > vendors provide TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> > implementations. We believe that by joining The Apache Software
> Foundation,
> > our vendors, users, and contributors will feel more comfortable in terms
> of
> > legal protected, in terms of wider-adoption, and in terms of project
> > stability.
> > >
> > >
> > > C. Background
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has had
> steady,
> > active development since 2009 when it was founded. Over the years, the
> > Gremlin query language within TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has been adopted by various
> > JVM languages and as such, there exists Gremlin-Groovy, Gremlin-Scala,
> > Gremlin-Clojure, Gremlin-JavaScript <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaScript>, and the like. In many
> > ways, Gremlin is seen as a traversal style that can be readily adopted
> > within the programming constructs of the developer's native language ---
> > both on and off the JVM. TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is not bound to the JVM in
> > that developers wishing to interact with a TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled graph system can
> > leverage Gremlin Server which provides "over the wire" communication as
> > well as the entry point for non-JVM language bindings. TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is being used is production
> > graph-based applications around the world and is only getting better with
> > age.
> > >
> > >
> > > D. Rationale
> > >
> > > The graph computing space has grown over the years to encompass
> numerous
> > graph database and graph processing systems. TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was created as a unifying
> > framework for interoperability, language standardization, and data model
> > standardization. This framework makes it simple to "plug and play" the
> > back-end graph implementation without affecting the developer's code.
> This
> > is analogous to the way in which the JDBC allows users to swap relational
> > databases while keeping the same programming interface. TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> also brings together OLTP
> > systems (graph databases) and OLAP systems (graph processors) by
> providing
> > a single query language (Gremlin) for executing graph algorithms
> > transparently over either type of system. The seamless support of
> > single-machine systems and distributed systems provides an identical
> > end-user experience within the boundaries of the space and time
> constraints
> > of the underlying graph system.
> > >
> > >
> > > E. Initial Goals
> > >
> > > The goal of this proposal is to migrate TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to The Apache Software
> > Foundation to
> > >
> > > get more exposure to the project
> > > legally protect the developers and contributors of the project
> > > ensure that TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> has
> > a vendor-neutral, stable home for the future
> > >
> > > F. Current Status
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is planning to
> > release TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA
> <
> > http://3.0.0.ga/> early 2015. We would like to release TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA <http://3.0.0.ga/>
> > at the Apache Software Foundation.
> > >
> > >
> > > G. Meritocracy
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> already has an
> > established community that values meritocracy. Anyone is welcome to
> > contribute to TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> and
> > voice their opinions/thoughts on the direction of the project. If an
> > individual provides beneficial pull requests, documentation updates,
> > theoretical ideas, etc. then they are asked to join TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as committers. Moreover,
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is a business
> > friendly community. It provides a forum where vendors collaborate, via
> > individual representatives, by contributing ideas, code and content.
> > >
> > > We believe the values of the community align well with the ASF, and we
> > are willing to adapt our practices when necessary.
> > >
> > >
> > > H. Community
> > >
> > > The TinkerPop mailing list <
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gremlin-users> has 1500+
> > subscribers with a flow of approximately 10 emails a day. In addition to
> > the initial committers there are about two dozen folks that have
> > contributed code to the project, and 1/2 of those are from Graph vendors.
> > Note that there are individuals that participate in the TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> ecosystem by providing
> > language bindings and system implementations. While not contributing to
> the
> > core codebase per se, they supportTinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> via their software and
> > lecture outreach.
> > >
> > >
> > > I. Core developers
> > >
> > > The initial committer list is small, and we hope to grow that into a
> > larger, vibrant community at the Apache Software Foundation.
> > >
> > >
> > > J. Alignment
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is licensed
> > Apache2. The OLAP reference implementation that distributes with
> TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is based on Hadoop <
> > http://hadoop.apache.org/> and Giraph <http://giraph.apache.org/>. There
> > has been a push from vendors and commercial organizations interested in
> > ensuring TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has the
> > legal support of a software foundation. We believe The Apache Software
> > Foundation to be a great home for TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>.
> > >
> > >
> > > K. Known Risks & Abandoned projects
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently
> at
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.M6. There
> > is a significant amount of code developed since TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s inception. We have done
> > our best to secure CLAs from contributors. To date did not have any legal
> > or political issues. TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has 12 official graph
> > vendors that maintain or support a TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> implementation for their
> > system. If, lets say, 75% of those vendors decide against providing a
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> interface, then
> > this would be detrimental to TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s efforts. With that, it is
> > very important that TinkerPop <
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> > remain neutral and engaged with vendors.
> > >
> > >
> > > L. Inexperience with Open Source
> > >
> > > The primary developers of TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> have been producing
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> open source code
> > and releases in full public view since 2009 via both our GitHub <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub> repository and our public
> > mailing lists. We pride ourselves in professional software,
> documentation,
> > and aesthetics. With its integration to numerous graph systems in the
> > market, we see TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>
> as
> > a masterpiece in the open source space. We are working with both open
> > source and commercial entities to ensure a solid, respected product.
> > >
> > >
> > > M. Homogeneous Developers
> > >
> > > The initial set of committers all hail from different employers.
> > >
> > >
> > > N. Reliance on Salaried Developers
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is open source
> > and no individual is paid for their contributions except for our logo
> > designer. All the logos and documentation graphics are released Apache2.
> > >
> > >
> > > O. Relationships with Other Apache Projects
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> currently
> > leverages Hadoop, Giraph, and in the near future, will integrate with
> Spark
> > <https://spark.apache.org/>. Internally, the project leverages Maven3,
> > Apache Configuration, and Apache Commons.
> > >
> > >
> > > P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is interested
> > in The Apache Software Foundation for the legal support and protection it
> > can offer our developers. Numerous large software organizations have
> urged
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to join a
> > foundation so that they may more easily provide contributors from their
> > organization and moreover, maintain confidence in building products atop
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. With that said,
> > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> does respect the
> > Apache Software Foundation brand and believes that by joining The Apache
> > Software Foundation, we will further boost the recognition and prestige
> of
> > our product. Finally, note that a TinkerPop book <
> > http://www.tinkerpopbook.com/> is slated for 2015. Combining the Apache
> > Software Foundation and a long awaited book should ensure a new uptake of
> > contributors, users, vendors, and promoters.
> > >
> > >
> > > Q. Documentation
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> takes pride in
> > its documentation:
> > >
> > > AsciiDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AsciiDoc>
> > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/ <
> > http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/>
> > > JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (core)
> > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/ <
> > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/>
> > > JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (full)
> > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/ <
> > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/>
> > >
> > > R. Initial Source
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently
> > hosted on GitHub <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub>:
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/ <https://github.com/tinkerpop/>.
> > >
> > > The following repositories would like to be migrated to ASF.
> > >
> > > TinkerPop3 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>
> > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 <
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3>
> > > Blueprints (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints <
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints>
> > > Pipes (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes <https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes
> >
> > > Frames (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>
> > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames <
> https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames
> > >
> > > Gremlin (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin <
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin>
> > > Rexster (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>)
> > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster <
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster>
> > >
> > > S. Source & Intellectual Property Submission Plan
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has required
> > CLAs from contributors in the past to ensure solid IP provenance.
> TinkerPop
> > <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> plans to submit a Software
> > Grant for the content in the following repositories:
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 <
> > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3>
> > > We plan to transfer to the ASF the TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> trademark as well as the
> > commissioned artwork for TinkerPop <
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> logos and the
> > http://tinkerpop.com <http://tinkerpop.com/> and http://tinkerpop.org <
> > http://tinkerpop.org/> domains.
> > >
> > >
> > > T. External Dependencies
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> relies on a
> > number of open source dependencies. We believe these to comply with the
> > third-party licensing guidelines. If any dependencies are unfit, we will
> > make the necessary changes.
> > >
> > >
> > > U. Cryptography
> > >
> > > None.
> > >
> > >
> > > V. Required Resources
> > >
> > >
> > > W. Mailing Lists
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> requests the
> > following mailing list:
> > >
> > > User Mailing List
> > > users@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto:
> > users@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>>
> > > Developer Mailing List
> > > dev@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto:
> > dev@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>>
> > > Private Mailing List
> > > private@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto:
> > private@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>>
> > > Commits Mailing List
> > > commits@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto:
> > commits@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>>
> > >
> > > X. Subversion Directory
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> will use
> > subversion for it’s website and requests:
> > >
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop <
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop>
> > >
> > > Y. Git Repository
> > >
> > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> wishes to have
> > the following created:
> > >
> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git <
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git>
> > > And to have all of these mirrored to Github with integration taken care
> > of.
> > >
> > >
> > > Z. Issue Tracking
> > >
> > > Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code
> > review (TINKERPOP).
> > >
> > >
> > > AA. Initial Committers and Affiliations
> > >
> > > Marko A. Rodriguez (2009)
> > > Aurelius
> > > Stephen Mallette (2011)
> > > Nidomics
> > > James Thornton (2013)
> > > Electric Speed
> > >
> > > BB. Sponsors
> > >
> > > Champion: David Nalley
> > > Mentors: Rich Bowen, Matt Franklin, Daniel Gruno, David Nalley, Hadrian
> > Zbarcea
> > > Sponsoring Entity: We request the Incubator to sponsor this project.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>


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