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From Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
Subject Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)
Date Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:27:14 GMT
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
> <Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorIssues2013
>
> If someone reviews this it would be nice to add brief comments about
> today's state, maybe right after each item's title (like "early 2014
> status: still a problem")

First of all, this appears to be an immutable page.

That said, looking at the list of issues, I'd say
that every one of them still applies (the caveat
being: to what degree) although the analysis
suggestions could be slightly out of date.

In general, I'd split the issues in two categories:

Operational/Structural issues
    Issue 01 - lack of mentor participation
    Issue 02 - lack of progress towards graduation
    Issue 03 - Too many cooks spoil the IPMC broth
    Issue 04 - Horrible signal-to-noise ratio on general@a.o for
podling contributors
    Issue 05 - Inadequate reporting
    Issue 07 - Vetting releases is a huge pain
    Issue 08 - The IPMC is broken

Documentation:
    Issue 06 - Podlings status metadata is not reliable
    Issue 09 - People do not follow through to improve Incubator documentation
    Issue 10 - Steps for Podlings to Acquire Resources Are Disparate
and Poorly Documented
    Issue 11 - Clearly and concisely document the "principles and
constraints" for the ASF
    Issue 12 - Cold welcome for new projects

In my view, the two categories can be addressed in
parallel. The Documentation agenda seems to be
passionately championed by Marvin and a few other folks.
I'd expect them to make quite a bit of progress there.

Personally, I'd like to focus this thread on the first category.

Thanks,
Roman.

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