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From Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org>
Subject Re: my pTLP view
Date Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:00:23 GMT
Yes, formal votes for all decisions has been my *universal* experience on
all projects I have participated in at Apache. It's like there are two (or
more) different foundations, culturally. Thanks for the consideration.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Branko ─îibej <brane@apache.org> wrote:

> On 25.01.2015 21:07, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> > I'm not arguing with you Greg (smile), honestly, Subversion sounds like a
> > very laid back place to participate. It's different in Bigtop, HBase,
> > Phoenix, Whirr (of historical note), and Hadoop (secondhand observation),
> > Hive (secondhand observation), ZooKeeper (secondhand observation) and
> > others. Formal votes are called on releases, committerships, PMC
> elevation,
> > branch merges (with even additional hurdles by bylaw), and are most
> > definitely talled.
>
> Sigh ... well, all I can really add here is that the projects you
> mention might benefit from a bit of therapy to cure their control-freak
> reflex.
>
> The reason why communities should reach consensus through public
> discussion is that, when instead you have a formal vote every time
> someone gets an itch, you're likely to end up with some very nasty
> behind-the-scenes vote swapping. Of course I'm not accusing anyone of
> doing that ... though, sadly, I've heard rumours.
>
> Suffice it to say that what you describe is not the ASF Way.
>
> -- Brane
>
>
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-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

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(via Tom White)

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