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From Jim Jagielski <...@jaguNET.com>
Subject Re: What is "The Apache Way"?
Date Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:30:06 GMT
Please tell me where the examples you give diverge or conflict?

> On Jan 9, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com> wrote:
> 
>> And I think that someone who is an ASF member who claims that
>> the Apache Way is completely unknown and nebulous and that
>> there is no clear understanding of what the Apache Way is, well
>> I think that's a big problem as well.
> 
> We've seen Brane's version of The Apache Way.  Here are some others:
> 
>    https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#philosophy
> 
>        While there is not an official list, these six principles have been
>        cited as the core beliefs of philosophy behind the foundation, which
>        is normally referred to as "The Apache Way":
> 
>        *   collaborative software development
>        *   commercial-friendly standard license
>        *   consistently high quality software
>        *   respectful, honest, technical-based interaction
>        *   faithful implementation of standards
>        *   security as a mandatory feature
> 
>    http://communityovercode.com/2013/11/apache-governance-projects-first/
> 
>        These include things like The Apache Way of: volunteer and
>        collaborative led community built software projects; using the
>        permissive Apache license; and having a consistent and stable brand,
>        infrastructure services, and home for all Apache projects.
> 
>    http://www.slideshare.net/rgardler/the-apache-way-and-openofficeorg
> 
>        *   Open Development vs. Open Source
>        *   Everyone is equal, everyone is a volunteer
>        *   All technical decisions about a project are public
>        *   She who has the best ideas leads
>            *   Until a better idea emerges
> 
>    http://theapacheway.com/
> 
>        The Apache Way is sort of like Zen. It's something that's difficult to
>        explain, has many interpretations, and the best way to learn it is to
>        do it.
> 
> The Incubator stands accused, on this list and others, of graduating pudlings
> who fail to understand the Apache Way.  Like me, these podlings have an their
> own interpretation of the Apache Way.  But we don't know, and can't know,
> every possible interpretation of The Apache Way.
> 
> If the Board thinks that not knowing The Apache Way is a problem, give us a
> specific definition -- and then don't hold us accountable for knowledge of any
> other version.
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
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