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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Incubator report sign-off
Date Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:14:11 GMT
On Sat Dec 20 2014 at 6:09:33 AM Branko ─îibej <brane@e-reka.si> wrote:

> On 19 December 2014 at 18:10, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> > I certainly don't expect that every mentor has their full attention on a
> > podling every month, but I do expect that a podling that cares about its
> > incubation will seek out that mentor sign-off, and that the mentors who
> have
> > committed to help a podling into the family will have a few moments every
> > few months to look in and approve a report.
>
>
> I have to disagree. If someone volunteers to be a mentor, they should
> commit to checking the podling's progress on a daily basis, not just
> once every few months. There are some people on the IPMC who are
> mentors to a plethora of podlings; I can never understand how they
> expect to do their job, and the fact that there are so many absent
> mentors tends to suggest that they don't.
>
> Certainly, we're all volunteers here. But being a volunteer does not
> imply that one doesn't have to take their task seriously. If someone
> runs out of time, the least I'd expect would be notifying the IPMC and
> the podling about that and arranging for a new mentor. Otherwise, I
> expect not only monthly (or quarterly) sign-offs, but regular
> oversight and moderately active involvement in the community. Because
> after all, how are people supposed to learn how things are done
> hereabouts, if not from active mentors?
>
> In that note ... i'd propose that, if a mentor does not sign off on a
> report, said mentor should be reminded once; if nothing changes, they
> should be removed and replaced by someone else.
>

I don't particularly like that idea.  For one, I know that if I were to see
50%+ of mentors on a project I'm a mentor on sign off on the report, I'm
probably going to look at things, but not add my signature.  Not out of
laziness, but in seeing that others are dealing with it as well and my
signature is just more "noise" on the report.

Maybe I missed it somewhere in this thread, but is everyone OK if we mark
podlings who don't have mentor sign off as monthly?

John


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