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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] accept corinthia into incubator
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2014 20:04:09 GMT
On Wednesday, December 3, 2014, Jake Farrell <jfarrell@apache.org> wrote:

> +0
>
> concerns being:
> - would this project be better suited as a part an existing ASF project,
> AOO or ODF Toolkit

AOO developers suggested to start a new project, without the history. See
also comments in this thread from pescetti (chair of AOO)

ODF Toolkit is not multi format so the scope is by far not the same.

> - what is the impact of code from UX Write not being included as a part of
> the proposal to the project

We have an editor (in reality an older version of UXwrite) but are missing
some support of new mac features.

The community does not see this as a restriction.


> - would like to es more mentors added

+1 Daniel volunteered and  so did I, but it would be real good to have an
additional mentor who knows the graduation process better.

thanks for giving your vote and opinion.
jan i

>
> -Jake
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:08 PM, jan i <jani@apache.org <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > As champion for corinthia, I hereby ask for a vote on accepting corinthia
> > into incubator.
> >
> > It seems the discussion have died out, in reality most of the discussion
> > has been through private mails and IRC/hipchat (which disturbes me). As a
> > result the proposal is now more clear about what the project is and what
> it
> > isnt.
> >
> > We have added a committer and a mentor during the discussion period.
> >



> > The proposal is available in
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal
> > <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal?action=recall&rev=60
> >
> > Remark the vote is for revision #60 (the newest).
> > Proposal is added as text to the bottom of this mail.
> >
> > Please vote
> > +1 for accepting corinthia into incubator
> > 0 for dont care
> > -1 for not accepting corinthia into incubator (please add a reason).
> >
> > Vote is open until Sunday december 7, 23:30 UTC. If needed the period can
> > be prolonged.
> >
> > Thanks for your vote.
> > on behalf of project corinthia
> > jan i.
> >
> >
> > ========= PROPOSAL TEXT =======
> >
> > #pragma section-numbers 2
> >
> > = Corinthia Podling Proposal =
> >
> > == Abstract ==
> >
> > Corinthia is a toolkit for converting between and editing common office
> > file formats, with an initial focus on word processing. It is designed to
> > cater for multiple classes of platforms - desktop, web, and mobile - and
> > relies heavily on web technologies such as HTML, CSS, and JavaScript for
> > representing and manipulating documents. The toolkit is small, portable,
> > and flexible, with minimal dependencies. The target audience is
> developers
> > wishing to include office viewing, conversion, and editing functionality
> > into their applications.
> >
> > The file format conversion library is implemented in highly-portable C,
> and
> > can be easily embedded in native applications, with bindings for other
> > programming languages planned. The library allows two-way conversion
> > between different formats, and avoids irreversible loss of content or
> > formatting unsupported in a target format by updating the source format
> in
> > a way that makes only the minimal changes necessary.
> >
> > The editing library is implemented in Java''''''Script, and runs in a
> > browser runtime - either an actual web browser, or a web view
> > embedded in a native app. It follows the philosophy of responsive design,
> > popular on the web, where layout of a document is automatically adapted
> to
> > suit the screen size and orientation, enabling the same content to be
> > viewed on mobile phones, tablets, and desktop systems. All layout is
> > handled by the browser's own engine; the editor works solely with the
> > document's HTML structure and CSS styles. Currently the editor only
> > operates in an embedded web view, but we plan to have it run in all major
> > web browsers, and provide a clean API for easy integration into various
> > native apps.
> >
> > Importantly, Corinthia document viewing and editing is on the
> intermediate
> > form (HTML & CSS), limited to common, widely-supported features.
> Corinthia
> > is not a comprehensive substitute for format-specific authoring, editing,
> > and final-form printing/production software. It is intended to
> complement,
> > not compete with, major office suites.
> >
> > Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of
> different
> > formats for dependable import and export involves development of
> extensive
> > test documents in the different formats.  There is profiling of the
> extent
> > to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with
> > identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that
> > impact convertibility.
> >
> > == Proposal ==
> >
> > The goal of Corinthia is to provide a responsive design editor as well
> as a
> > toolkit that enacts a defined conversion between different office
> document
> > formats. Responsive design fits the layout as needed, tablet or desktop.
> > The editor is a lightweight editor - an extension and not a replacement
> for
> > the desktop editor.
> >
> > Many office document programs claim to read/write to the ISO open
> standards
> > for office documents, Open''''''Document Format (ODF) and Office Open XML
> > (OOXML), but do not document which parts are left unimplemented.
> > Furthermore, the standards have a large number of "implementation
> defined"
> > parts, making real-world congruence chancy. The Corinthia toolkit wants
> to
> > put this unacknowledged aspect into the open and provide "compliance
> > sheets" for document formats, as known from industry computer protocols.
> >
> > Corinthia aims at generating a large set of test documents, which can be
> > used to verify the "compliance sheets". The code can work as test case
> for
> > other applications (or entities tendering for OOXML/ODF based systems) as
> > well.
> >
> > The base of Corinthia and its toolkit is the library Doc''''''Formats,
> > which converts between different office document file formats. Currently
> it
> > supports .docx (part of the OOXML specification), HTML, and LaTeX
> > (export-only). In addition to this is an editing library, which allows
> > manipulation of the HTML files in a web browser or embedded web view, and
> > can be used in conjunction with Doc''''''Formats to edit documents in all
> > supported formats.
> >
> > The design  of Doc''''''Formats is based on on the idea of bidirectional
> > transformation (BDT), in which a specific document (the original file in
> > its source format) is converted into an abstract document (in the
> > destination format). A modified version of the abstract document can then
> > be used to update the specific document in a non-destructive manner,
> > keeping intact all parts of the file which are not supported in the
> > abstract format by modifying the original file rather than replacing it.
> >
> > Descriptions of BDT can be found in:
> >
> >  Aaron Bohannon, J. Nathan Foster, Benjamin C. Pierce et. al. Boomerang:
> > Resourceful Lenses for String Data. Technical Report MS-CIS-07-15
> > Department of Computer and Information Science University of
> Pennsylvania.
> > November 2007. (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/papers/boomerang.pdf)
> >
> >  Benjamin Pierce. Foundations for Bidirectional Programming. ICMT2009 -
> > International Conference on Model Transformation. June 2009. (
> > http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/papers/icmt-2009-slides.pdf)
> >
> > The short term goal of the project is to have an easy-to-integrate
> library
> > that any application can use to embed support for a range of different
> file
> > formats, and use the parsing, serialisation, and conversion facilities
> for
> > various purposes. These include editors, batch conversion tools, web
> > publishing systems, document analysis tools, and content management
> > systems. By abstracting over different file formats and using HTML as a
> > common intermediate format, one can just code an application to that end,
> > and let Doc''''''Formats take care of conversion to other formats.
> >
> > The medium term goal of the project is to have a series of end-user
> > applications (separate from the library itself), including an editor and
> > file conversion tool. These will serve as examples of how the libraries
> can
> > be used.
> >
> > And ultimately to have a touch based UI for office documents.
> >
> > It is also a goal to cooperate with other open source projects, in terms
> of
> > getting input from them as well as providing APIs for their use.
> Corinthia
> > is meant to be easy to understand and work with, making it more
> > approachable for a range of projects.
> >
> > == Background ==
> >
> > The document conversion library and the editing library have been
> shipping
> > as components of UX Write on the iOS app store since February 2013. Both
> > components have undergone continued development since that time. As far
> as
> > UX Write is concerned, they provide a stable and reliable codebase.
> >
> > As an open source project, Corinthia is completely new, in the sense that
> > it is now moving from a single-developer commercial project, to an open,
> > community-based project. We believe that this is the most beneficial path
> > forward for the technology, to enable it to be developed to its full
> > potential, and made available to anyone who needs to deal with multiple
> > document formats or provide editing functionality on web, desktop, or
> > mobile platforms.
> >
> > == Rationale ==
> >
> > Corinthia's approach to providing an editor and thoroughly-documented
> > conversion of office documents is perfectly aligned with Apache's mission
> > to produce software for the public good.  There is further benefit in
> > documented tests demonstrating where implementations of standard formats
> > deviate for any reason, identifying where interoperability and
> > inter-conversion is improvable.
> >
> > The project has potential to grow by collaboration with other projects,
> > tapping mutual interests and identifying cases for improved
> > interoperability, providing new architectures and design philosophies
> > available to supplement existing implementations.
> >
> > Introducing Corinthia in the Apache family of projects provides ready
> > availability and participation with the diverse community of experienced
> > Apache contributors under convenient familiar conditions.
> >
> >
> > == Initial Goals ==
> >
> > The initial and most important goal is to enlarge the community
> consisting
> > of developers, testers, and people who know the standards in depth.
> >
> > There are four technical goals:
> >  * Cleanup core, to make it easy to add filters (format converters)
> >  * Complete the ODF filter
> >  * Produce an editor based on Java''''''Script & HTML which can be
> embedded
> > in mobile apps or used in a Web browser
> >  * Develop additional tests and compliance sheets for supported file
> > formats
> >
> > Our initial goals might not be big visions, but we prefer something
> > reachable, and then make bigger goals as we grow.
> >
> > == Current Status ==
> >
> > === Meritocracy ===
> >
> > Some of the initial committers are already part of Apache, and those who
> > are not are becoming familiar with working in "the Apache way".
> >
> > === Community ===
> >
> > Our community could be larger, and committers from AOO and others have
> > shown interest in the project, but we have preferred to stay a stable,
> but
> > very active group until we are part of Incubator.
> >
> > Apache/Incubator provides a lot of tools (e.g., mailing lists) and
> > community practices--The Apache Way--that enable community engagement and
> > growth.
> >
> > === Core Developers ===
> >
> > Peter Kelly,
> >
> > Jan Iversen,
> >
> > Svante Schubert,
> >
> > Dennis E. Hamilton,
> >
> >
> >
> > === Alignment ===
> >
> > Corinthia has commonalities with Apache OpenOffice (AOO), but is not
> > competing. AOO is a desktop product and integrated suite and Corinthia
> is a
> > lightweight editor and a developer product (library).
> >
> > Corinthia has a document API as do Apache POI and the incubating Apache
> ODF
> > Toolit, but the focus is different. Corinthia targets a conversion
> library
> > and an editor. POI and ODF Toolkit provide APIs for processing documents
> > and are both Java-based.
> >
> > Sharing test documents in standard document-file formats with projects
> like
> > AOO and POI is a valuable opportunity.
> >
> > == Known Risks ==
> >
> > The biggest risk Corinthia faces is failing to attract a larger community
> > (not only developers but also testers and documenters). Actions have been
> > taken and will continue to minimize the risk:
> >  * Contact to student projects (in particular Capstone)
> >  * Talks at Apache''''''Cons
> >
> > The project uses existing technologies, so there are no real
> technological
> > risks.
> >
> > There is of course a risk that nobody wants to use the project, but the
> fun
> > building the community and project make this risk bearable.
> >
> > === Orphaned Products ===
> >
> > None
> >
> > === Inexperience with Open Source ===
> >
> > All initial committers have worked several years with open source.
> >
> > === Homogenous Developers ===
> >
> > The initial committers are geographically distributed across the world.
> > Half of the initial developers are experienced Apache committers and all
> > have experience in working in distributed development communities.
> >
> > The original source has already been partly refactored by other
> developers
> > to make sure knowledge is spread among multiple people.
> >
> > === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
> >
> > No committers are being paid to participate.
> >
> > Peter Kelly and Louis Suarez-Potts have a company that has added a
> > commercial editor for iPad & iPhone on top of the library.
> >
> > === Relationships with Other Apache Projects ===
> >
> > Corinthia has/will have a relation to at least the following projects:
> >  * '''AOO''', core developers have said on dev@ that for targeting
> mobile
> > platforms, a rewrite of AOO would be better than building on top of the
> > existing sources. It is our hope to have long and beneficial interaction
> > with AOO.
> >  * '''Httpd''', we would like to make a module that on the fly presents
> > odf/ooxml documents as pure HTML.
> >  * '''POI''', Corinthia library is similar to POI, but simpler, more
> > generic, and written in C instead of Java. We hope to be able to share
> > know-how as well as test cases.
> >
> > Corinthia is based on document standards which are used by numerous
> > high-profile projects. We would like to cooperate with the projects to
> > exchange knowledge.
> >
> > == Documentation ==
> >
> > The current documentation can be found at
> > https://github.com/uxproductivity/Corinthia/wiki
> >
> > The project is aware that this is work in progress and there is special
> > attention on this task.
> >
> > == Initial Source ==
> >
> > The source originated as part of the UX Write product. The file format
> > conversion library, Doc''''''Formats, and the Java''''''Script + HTML5
> > editor are now under Apache License version 2 (ALv2).
> >
> > The iOS-specific code from UX Write is not part of the grant and remains
> > closed source.
> >
> > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> >
> > Source code will be moved from the Git''''''Hub uxproductivity/Corinthia
> > repository when the incubator repository is set up.  The content of the
> > repository will be included in a cCLA grant from Peter Kelly.  All
> original
> > contributors are aligned with movement to an Apache Podling.
> >
> >
> > == External Dependencies ==
> >
> > The current source includes two third-party libraries to which minor
> > modifications have been made(
> >
> >
> https://github.com/uxproductivity/Corinthia/tree/stable/DocFormats/3rdparty/external
> > ).
> >
> >  * '''minizip''', a layer on top of zlib,
> > http://www.winimage.com/zLibDll/minizip.html
> >  * '''w3c-tidy-html5''', an HTML5 manipulation library,
> > https://github.com/w3c/tidy-html5
> >
> > The changes made to the original sources are undocumented. The plan is to
> > have pristine sources with documented changes in some manner.  The
> existing
> > licenses are ALv2 compatible and are honored.  Any changes in the
> > adaptation for Corinthia that are meaningful patches for the original
> code
> > will be contributed upstream.
> >
> > Furthermore, Corinthia depends on
> >  * libxml2, http://xmlsoft.org
> >  * zlib, http://www.zlib.net
> >  * Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL), http://www.libsdl.org/
> >  * Showdown, http://github.com/showdownjs/showdown
> >
> >
> > == Cryptography ==
> >
> > Corinthia does not use cryptography nor does it delivery any
> cryptographic
> > functions.
> >
> > == Required Resources ==
> >
> >
> > === Mailing Lists ===
> >
> >  * corinthia-dev@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> for general
> discussions
> >
> >  * corinthia-private@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> for private
> discussions
> >
> >  * corinthia-issues@incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> for
> issue-tracker notifications
> >
> > === Subversion Directory ===
> >
> >  * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/corinthia
> >    for management of the incubator web site
> >
> > === Git Repository ===
> >
> > Our current git repository is on Git''''''Hub (
> > https://github.com/uxproductivity/Corinthia).
> >
> > It will be migrated to
> >
> >  * ASF Git repository incubator-corinthia.git
> >
> > And mirrored at github through the apache organization.
> >
> >
> > === Issue Tracking ===
> >
> >  A JIRA issue tracker is requested.
> >
> > === Other Resources ===
> >
> >  * Wiki: We are currently using github wiki, we would like to move to an
> > Apache supported wiki (preferable mediawiki), before our documentation
> > becomes difficult to move.
> >
> >  * Buildbot: We would like to be able to build/test on OSX, Windows and
> > Ubuntu.
> >
> >  * Code signing: It is desirable to provide OS-compliant digital
> signatures
> > with project-created convenience binaries of compiled libraries,
> utilities,
> > and client applications.
> >
> >  * Web: We would like, if possible, to have the home page
> > corinthia.incubator.apache.org (just raw html please).
> >
> >  * Blog: We would like to have a blog, preferable wordpress.
> >
> >
> > == Initial Committers ==
> >
> >
> >     Dennis E Hamilton, orcmid@apache.org <javascript:;>
> >
> >     Dorte Fjalland, dorte@casacondor.com <javascript:;> (ICLA recorded)
> >
> >     Jan Iversen, jani@apache.org <javascript:;>
> >
> >     Louis Suárez-Potts, louis@apache.org <javascript:;>
> >
> >     Peter Kelly, peter@uxproductivity.com <javascript:;> (ICLA recorded)
> >
> >     Svante Schubert, svanteschubert@apache.org <javascript:;>
> >
> > == Affiliations ==
> >
> > None
> >
> > == Sponsors ==
> >
> > === Champion ===
> >
> > Jan Iversen
> >
> > === Nominated Mentors ===
> >
> > Jan Iversen (IPMC)
> >
> > Daniel Gruno (IPMC)
> >
> >
> > === Sponsoring Entity ===
> >
> > Incubator IPMC.
> >
>


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