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From Roman Shaposhnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Date Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:28:58 GMT
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org> wrote:
>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>> for the NPanday poddling...
>
> -1 for now.
>
> Unless I missed something I don't see any mention of this on the
> NPanday mailing list at
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/201412.mbox/browser
>
> Although activity is minimal, IMO a warning is needed there before
> voting on retirement.

I have always imagined this process to be:
   1. IPMC firms up its opinion via VOTE
   2. An IPMC chair reaches out to the community
       suggesting a retirement option based on the
       collective IPMC opinion recorded as an outcome
       of the VOTE.
   3. Unless there's no objections from the community
       the process ends in retirement.
   4. If there's an objection from the community we
       continue the dialogue.

I'm happy to reach out first, but I honestly don't see
how I can communicate anything to them, but my
personal opinion. IOW, the whole point of the vote
is to be able to have a link that I can forward to the
community and engage in a retirement conversation
with them as opposed to an open ended one.

Keep in mind, that nobody is saying that just because
IPMC voted to suggest a retirement option the
project immediately gets retired. In fact, the VOTE
is just that -- a formal signal from IPMC what we
collectively feels is the best option for the project.

Makes sense?

Thanks,
Roman.

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