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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:57:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: Reza <reza.naghibi@yahoo.com.INVALID>
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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache DeviceMap from the incubator
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>>=C2=A0Why do you think graduating will give growth or even more visibilit=
y ?

No specific reason other than its just another accomplishment for the proje=
ct. Active projects tend to garner more attention than inactive ones. But i=
m just speculating, so that statement is far from fact.

Reza
      From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
 To: general@incubator.apache.org; Reza <reza.naghibi@yahoo.com>=20
 Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 4:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache DeviceMap from the incubator
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On 6 November 2014 03:31, Reza <reza.naghibi@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

Of course, discussion is more than welcomed.
>>=C2=A0Seems a little weird to have such a small team to begin with.=C2=A0=
 How have you=C2=A0grown?
This is a concern of the project. The PMC is indeed small. More than half o=
f the original group has not participated in the last year and have not voi=
ced that they would like to continue on with the project, leaving us with t=
he group listed in the resolution. I do not know why these people decided n=
ot to continue their participation, but I can assure you that the remaining=
 members are fully committed to continuing on with the project and we hope =
to=C2=A0recruit future members. Graduating will be a big accomplishment for=
 this project and may give this project more visibility and growth.
Also, on another note, I did not give the vote a deadline. If this list wis=
hes to continue a vote, it will be open for 72 hours from my original email=
. I will close the vote Nov 8th at noon EST.
thanks,Reza


I for sure understand and share the concern. One of the reasons for a proje=
ct to show it can grow a community.

The project seems to have a fine technical base, but the lack of community =
growth is a major concern for me. Would it not be wise to postpone the grad=
uation, and get the community to grow first ?

Why do you think graduating will give growth or even more visibility ?

rgds
jan i.


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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
=C2=A0To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>; Re=
za <reza.naghibi@yahoo.com>
=C2=A0Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:37 PM
=C2=A0Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache DeviceMap from the incubator

Hi,

Should we perhaps discuss it first?

Seems a little weird to have such a small team to begin with.=C2=A0 How hav=
e you
grown?

John


On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Reza <reza.naghibi@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> So another graduation vote thread..! The Apache DeviceMap project would
> like to graduate from the incubator. The project has made a lot of progre=
ss
> in the past 6 months and all project members have voted positively for th=
is
> measure. We got 4 +1 votes from PMC members, 2 +1 votes from IPMC members
> (Bertrand and Kevan), and no 0 or -1 votes [0].
>
>
> This is the incubator vote thread to decide if the Apache DeviceMap
> project graduates from the incubator. The resolution is at the bottom of
> this email and attached.
>
>
> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache DeviceMap from the Incubator.
>
> [ ] +0 Don't care.
>
> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache DeviceMap from the Incubator because ...
>
>
> [0]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-devicemap-dev/201411.m=
box/%3C394358326.437830.1415058677229.JavaMail.yahoo%40jws106134.mail.bf1.y=
ahoo.com%3E
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Establish the Apache DeviceMap Project
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish =
a
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, relate=
d
> to the maintenance and expansion of a data repository related to devices,
> their operating systems and web browsers, and an API for classifying said
> features.
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC)=
,
> to be known as the "Apache DeviceMap Project", be and hereby is establish=
ed
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache DeviceMap Project be and hereby is responsible
> for the maintenance and expansion of a data repository related to devices=
,
> their operating systems and web browsers, and an API for classifying said
> features; and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache DeviceMap" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the directi=
on
> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache DeviceMap Project, a=
nd
> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache DeviceMap Project; and be it furthe=
r
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache DeviceMapProject:
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 * Reza Naghibi=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <rezan@apache.org>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 * Werner Keil=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <wkeil@apache.org>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 * Eberhard Speer Jr.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 <esjr@apache.org>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 * Radu Cotescu=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <radu@apache.org>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 * Bertrand Delacretaz=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Reza Naghibi be appointed to
> the office of Vice President, Apache DeviceMap, to serve in accordance wi=
th
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache DeviceMap PMC be and hereby is tasked
> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open developme=
nt
> and increased participation in the Apache DeviceMap Project; and be it
> further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache DeviceMap Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator DeviceMap
> podling; and be it further
>
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> DeviceMap podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are
> hereafter discharged.
>
>
>
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