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From Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-re...@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
Subject Re: Mail command to allow marvin emails
Date Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:45:22 GMT
Has there been some consideration for apache.org to use a mailing list
system with a regular web interface instead of just magic email addresses?
We've been using Mailman at Sourceforge since 2005 or so, and this ezlm
just feels like a step backwards to the 1990s. (Our university still use
ListServ. So It could be worse! ;-) )

Just yesterday I spent 15 minutes trying to find out how to link to a
thread in the apache.org mbox mail archive. It turns out you can't, in
thread view the URL never change, and in message view the thread is hidden.

Don't get me started on trying to explain how to subscribe to a list with a
different  email address than Sender header leaks (e.g. if using gmail with
a secondary email address).

I can appreciate that these kind of shortcuts can make it efficient for an
experienced moderator, but for incubating projects who are transitioning
from infrastructure like Github, Google Groups and yes, even Sourceforge,
getting used to the apache.org infrastructure is a bit of a challenge, even
for dinosaurs like myself who used this kind of technology 15 years ago.

</rant> ;)
On 25 Nov 2014 11:03, "Tim Ellison" <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24/11/14 17:39, John D. Ament wrote:
> > On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 10:29:02 AM Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 24/11/14 14:35, John D. Ament wrote:
> >>> Does anyone know the mail command to send out to allow marvin emails
> >>> to get to a list without moderation?
> >>
> >> If the mail hits moderation then I/some other mod will allow it through
> >> and add Marvin to the allowed senders' list.
> >>
> >>
> > Are you referring to general@ or something else? I'm specifically
> referring
> > to dev@tamaya.i.a.o and I was hoping to white list marvin (the board
> report
> > email reminder).
>
> Well I can moderate general@ requests, but other moderators can do the
> equivalent for lists they oversee.
>
> > I can't seem to find instructions on how to white list
> > people anywhere.
>
> When you get the MODERATE mail you should replyAll and send the
> acknowledgement to the *-accept-* and *-allow-tc.* addresses.
>
> The 'accept' permits the current e-mail through, and the 'allow' address
> will add the sender to the whitelist for future mails.  There are other
> command to remove the sender if you change your mind later.
>
> See http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>
> > If you're saying that only you can white list Marvin.. please white list
> > Marvin on the listed mail alias.
>
> No, it requires a moderator for dev@tamaya.i.a.o to do that, and an
> incoming moderation request.
>
> HTH
> Tim
>
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