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From Evert Lammerts <ev...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Retire HDT
Date Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:28:01 GMT
Like Bob I would have liked to do more than just monitoring the list, but
clearly I haven't and that doesn't give me much legitimacy I'm afraid. +0
from me as well.

I've just come back to Hadoop after an absence of 18 months, and I see that
a development environment for Hadoop-related computing and data warehousing
tools (MapReduce, Spark [SQL|Streaming], Pig, HBase, Hive, etc) and their
libraries (Mahout, Giraph, MLlib and GraphX) is still missing, and that
there *is* a real need for it. Any cloud provider worth their salt offers a
Hadoop as a platform service where you can deploy a cluster within minutes,
but there's no way to get started developing jobs right away. And I see
organisations struggle with this on private deployments as well. Stacks
like Hue and IPython Notebook and simple stepping stone nodes fill part of
the gap, but I think we can do way better.

I've just come back to this space, and this is a problem I'm addressing for
my current client (a bank) as well. If somebody would like to discuss
tackling this together then lets set up a short call. I do have to say that
looking at the current Hadoop toolset, I'm no longer convinced that Eclipse
is the way to go here.

Best,
Evert

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> CC¹ing folks from general@incubator.a.o as they can likely explain
> (am currently getting ready for a flight back from Italy to Los Angeles
> and won¹t have time for a bit, Bob).
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Kerns <rwk@acm.org>
> Reply-To: "dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org" <dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 6:58 PM
> To: "dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org" <dev@hdt.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire HDT
>
> >As someone who has unfortunately been inactive, I'm going to abstain +0;
> >otherwise I'd vote -1 and try to be one of those 3 active folks.
> >
> >I still have hopes of doing more stuff with Hadoop and HDT in the future,
> >but job responsibilities keep shifting in unexpected directions, and
> >health
> >and family don't leave me enough time to do it if not actively involved at
> >work.
> >
> >If retired, will this list remain active? Otherwise, it might be hard to
> >gather the 3 active people...
> >
> >I think there's significant needs that are going unmet that we could be
> >addressing, if people (myself included) had the time to devote to it.
> >
> >I've not stopped monitoring the list, and I do hope to contribute in the
> >future. If it is retired, what will be the mechanics for contributing new
> >code? Would it have to be brought out of retirement before that could
> >happen via Apache? (Obviously, a fork on GitHub would be an option, but
> >that might detract from a path back to active Apache involvement).
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Rahul Sharma <rsharma@apache.org>
> >>wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Based on the discussion happened on the mailing list [1] ,I'd like to
> >> call
> >> > a VOTE to retire[2] Apache HDT from  Apache Incubator. It appears i
> >>that
> >> > the project has lost community interest with almost no activity on
> >> mailing
> >> > lists.
> >> >
> >> > This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours and passes on achieving a
> >> > consensus.
> >> >
> >> >  +1 [ ] Yes, I am in favor of retiring HDT from the Apache Incubator.
> >> >  +0 [ ]
> >> >  -1 [ ] No, I am not in favor of retiring HDT because...
> >>
> >> + 1 (binding).
> >>
> >> Thanks for all your efforts Rahul!
> >>
> >> I've also appreciated Mirko's comment, but I must say that
> >> retirement is NOT a death sentence. The code still will be
> >> available and if least 3 active folks were to show up the
> >> project can easily be reinstated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roman.
> >>
>
>

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