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From Roman Shaposhnik <>
Subject Re: Convenience Binary Policy
Date Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:37:14 GMT
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
>>> P.S.: Why anyone would think voting on binaries makes any kind of sense
>>> around here is, of course, a different question. I can't even begin to
>>> count the number of times it's been pointed out that binaries are not
>>> Apache releases.
>> And yet that issue keeps rearing its ugly head. Given the amount
>> of traffic I've seen around clarifying some finer (and not so fine)
>> points of release/licensing implication it is about time we start
>> an FAQ on that. Me thinks at least.
> We have several release FAQs spread across the ASF, though -- which, taken
> together, are comprehensive beyond the point of excess.
> The problem is that we lack a concise policy document.  That's where the "ASF
> release policy codification proposal" as worked through on legal-discuss a few
> months ago is supposed to help.
> It's delayed because I got swamped but it seems that the need has not
> diminished.

It would be really nice if you/we could finish this. That said, I
still maintain,
that focusing exclusively on source releases will simplify our life greatly.
IOW, Apache FOO version x.y.z can only designate a source release.

I understand the need of projects like OO to provide binaries of some sort,
I just don't understand why do they have to be 'blessed' by ASF. Once
source gets built and packaged a whole new set of issues kick in. I don't
think the foundation is well prepared to deal with those. We might as
well admit it explicitly.


P.S. To be super explicit: I'm not saying that binary artifacts should be
banned, rather that a binary artifact compiled by a member of a project
is no different from one compiled by RedHat or Debian and thus requires
no special treatment whatsoever.

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