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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.5.0-incubating release
Date Tue, 09 Sep 2014 04:51:44 GMT
John,

Actually, on reading the links you provide, neither provides solid guidance
about the issue in question.  The second link comes closest where it says
that projects typically use one of three different methods.  How does this
document your strong preference for a single one of these alternatives?




On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ted,
>
> Do you mean more than here:
>
> [1]: http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html
> [2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#host-rc
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is the new process documented somewhere?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 7 September 2014 20:31, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > As I understand the release guidelines, one is not allowed to put
> > > something
> > > > on dist.apache.org until after a release vote by the Incubator PMC
> > > approves
> > > > that release:
> > > >
> > > > "Only formally-approved releases may be distributed from the main
> > > > directories" [1]
> > > >
> > > > For this candidate, as with our last two releases, we followed this
> > piece
> > > > of information:
> > > >
> > > > "It is traditional that release managers use their Apache home space
> to
> > > > make available release candidates. " [1]
> > >
> > > Historic tradition; that was before svnpubsub.
> > >
> > > Note that the DEV tree at
> > >
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/xyz
> > >
> > > is NOT published to www.apache.org/dist
> > >
> > > The svnpubsub process takes releases from the RELEASE tree at
> > >
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/xyz
> > >
> > > Since they have the same parent, one can use svn move (or svnmucc) to
> > > transfer the files from dev to release area.
> > > This provides traceability (assuming the the release vote includes the
> > > SVN revision number)
> > >
> > > > To date, we only push to dist.apache.org once we have received
> > approval
> > > > here.  Can you point me to the guidelines that lead you to believe
> that
> > > > this must be staged on dist.apache.org?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jacques
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-incubator-release-vote
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM, John D. Ament <
> john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sorry, I have to vote -1
> > > >>
> > > >> The release is not staged in the proper place (e.g.
> > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/ )
> > > >>
> > > >> If this gets moved, I can vote +1
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi John,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks for the feedback.  I'd like to respond to each of your
> > > concerns:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >>Your NOTICE file is missing MIT license.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The notice file states:  "Please see LICENSE for additional
> > copyright
> > > and
> > > >> > licensing information." The LICENSE file contains the MIT license.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >>Your source file includes binaries in the sample-data
directory.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > These are small sample data files that are used to do various
unit
> > > tests.
> > > >> >  They have been approved on both of our previous releases because
> of
> > > >> their
> > > >> > small size (<24k combined) and the fact that they are not
source
> > code.
> > > >> >  These are raw data files that happen to be binary in nature
but
> are
> > > for
> > > >> > all purposes the same as example json files we include for testing
> > > >> > purposes.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >> Ideally, your directory name should match the release
version
> > > >> (0.5.0.rc2
> > > >> > vs 0.5.0)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The name of the release candidate directory is due to the nature
> of
> > > the
> > > >> > Apache voting process.  Each time we have a release candidate
in
> the
> > > >> > community, we hold a vote.  We always maintain past release
> > > candidates so
> > > >> > that we can refer back to them.  All artifacts in the release
> > > candidate
> > > >> > hold the release/public names and will ultimately be hosted on
the
> > > Apache
> > > >> > distribution servers at the appropriately named release directory.
> > > For
> > > >> > historical perspective on this, see the following that has been
> our
> > > >> > strategy thus far:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > our m1 release:
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1 (fail)
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1.rc2
> (fail)
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1.rc3
> (fail)
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-1.0.0-m1.rc4
> > > (approved)
> > > >> -->
> > > >> > and distributed as
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/drill/drill-1.0.0-m1-incubating/
> > > >> >
> > > >> > our 0.4.0 release:
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.4.0.rc0 (fail)
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.4.0.rc1
> (approved)
> > > -->
> > > >> > distributed as
> > > >> >
> > >
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/drill/drill-0.4.0-incubating/
> > > >> >
> > > >> > our 0.5.0 release:
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc0 (fail)
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc1 (fail)
> > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc2
> (pending)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As you can see, the rc numbers are only used during the voting
> > > process.
> > > >> >  Once we get approval from the incubator, we drop the rc so that
> > > external
> > > >> > consumers aren't confused by failed released candidates.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hopefully this satisfies your concerns and you can vote +1 for
our
> > > >> release.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > thanks again for your feedback,
> > > >> > Jacques
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:09 AM, John D. Ament <
> > john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Your NOTICE file is missing MIT license.
> > > >> > > Your source file includes binaries in the sample-data directory.
> > > >> > > Ideally, your directory name should match the release version
> > > >> (0.5.0.rc2
> > > >> > vs
> > > >> > > 0.5.0)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > John
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Jacques Nadeau <
> > jacques@apache.org
> > > >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > It is my pleasure to present the Apache Drill 0.5.0-incubating
> > > >> release
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > the general incubator list for a vote.  This set of
artifacts
> > have
> > > >> > passed
> > > >> > > > our drill-dev vote and incorporate a number of improvements
> with
> > > over
> > > >> > 100
> > > >> > > > JIRAs closed in the last month.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > As part of this release, we looked to address the feedback
in
> > our
> > > >> > > previous
> > > >> > > > release from the general list.  This included enhancing
our
> > > license
> > > >> and
> > > >> > > > notice files as well as clearly delineating binary
> dependencies
> > > that
> > > >> > are
> > > >> > > > distributed as part of our convenience binary.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The vote thread can be found here:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201409.mbox/%3CCAKa9qD=L9KLQbNe2BKXKn=H34r0=3booBBd_3UHzeojC9K84Pg@mail.gmail.com%3E
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The vote passed with:
> > > >> > > > +5 binding
> > > >> > > > +6 non-binding
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > You can find the artifacts for the release at this
location:
> > > >> > > > http://people.apache.org/~jacques/apache-drill-0.5.0.rc2/
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I look forward to your feedback.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > Jacques
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
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