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From <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject RE: Mentors heartbeat
Date Thu, 04 Sep 2014 07:05:24 GMT
Surely we are not going to start counting signing off on a report as indicative of good/bad
mentoring?

What's important is whether podlings are getting what they need from their mentors. Besides,
 someone who has actively mentored one new podling through initial setup in a first month
will have one "tick" while someone else who has done little more than sign off on reports
for the years will have many "ticks".

Case in point, I've not actively mentored a project for at least a couple of years (I just
signed up to one this month), yet according to this measure I am one of the more active mentors.

Lets not demean the work good new mentors are doing by counting a few characters on a wiki
page.

Note, I'm not saying rolling to assist the incubator and mentors is a bad thing. I'm saying
this specific example is a bad thing.

Sent from my Windows Phone

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent: ‎9/‎3/‎2014 10:25 PM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat

These are the "signed off" per month mentors per podling over
the last 3 years. So it measures how many times a mentor has
signed off (summed across all podlings) during that time span.

Cheers,
Chris


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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
Reply-To: <general@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 10:11 PM
To: <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat

>Arguably, the number of mentored project doesn't reflect "the activity"
>per
>se. Unless I am missing something.
>
>Cos
>
>On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 04:46AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote:
>> Guys, +1 to eventually doing this with JSON and YAML. The big problem
>> I see is curation (someone has to maintain it). Right now board reports
>> and the wiki are what's used to make the report, so feel free to use my
>> scripts for now until those are changed over. For example, I just ran
>>them
>> right now (with some major pythonic updates to sniff mentors, and to
>> map name to committer ID, and updating years and months to current and
>> here's what I get):
>> 
>> 29 phunt
>>   24 tomwhite
>>   24 rvs
>>   24 mattmann
>>   23 cdouglas
>>   20 hsaputra
>>   18 bdelacretaz
>>   18 arvind
>>   16 adc
>>   14 smarru
>>   14 rgardler
>>   14 olamy
>>   14 gates
>>   13 jfarrell
>>   12 kevan
>>   11 tdunning
>>   11 jim
>>   11 grobmeier
>>   11 ddas
>>   10 omalley
>>    9 mfranklin
>>    8 wave
>>    8 lresende
>>    8 jbonofre
>>    8 ate
>>    7 twilliams
>>    7 rfrovarp
>>    7 ke4qqq
>>    7 jukka
>>    6 jzb
>>    6 acmurthy
>>    5 struberg
>>    5 nslater
>>    5 marrs
>>    5 lewismc
>>    5 greddin
>>    5 bodewig
>>    4 thorsten
>>    4 mahadev
>>    4 joes
>>    4 jghoman
>>    4 gsingers
>>    4 fmui
>>    3 upayavira
>>    3 tommaso
>>    3 stevenn
>>    3 ssc
>>    3 snoopdave
>>    3 nick
>>    3 marvin
>>    3 hwright
>>    3 gstein
>>    3 gianugo
>>    3 chipchilders
>>    3 benh
>>    3 apurtell
>>    2 todd
>>    2 larsh
>>    2 jochen
>>    2 jmclean
>>    2 dkulp
>>    2 dennisl
>>    2 dashorst
>>    2 cutting
>>    2 antelder
>>    1 yegor
>>    1 wrowe
>>    1 wavw
>>    1 stack
>>    1 simonetripodi
>>    1 robweir
>>    1 rmannibucau
>>    1 rfeng
>>    1 rbircher
>>    1 nandana
>>    1 mnour
>>    1 jvermillard
>>    1 fchrist
>>    1 enis
>>    1 elecharny
>>    1 cos
>>    1 coheigea
>>    1 brett
>>    1 bmargulies
>>    1 berndf
>>    1 asavory
>>    1 ant
>>    1 akarasulu
>>    1 ahart
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Chief Architect
>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Alan D. Cabrera" <list@toolazydogs.com>
>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:54 AM
>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Mentors heartbeat
>> 
>> >
>> >On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report.
>> >> 
>> >> What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  Having the board
>> >>report in machine readable formats provides the same advantages as
>>that
>> >>afforded incubator reports.
>> >
>> >If these machine readable reports work out, I see no reason why they
>> >would not, then I predict an explosion of tool driven processes, e.g.
>> >release voting, podling acceptance and graduation votes, etc.
>> >
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Alan
>> >
>> 
>> 
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