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From Alejandro Abdelnur <t...@cloudera.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal
Date Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:14:01 GMT
> There is some overlap between the goals of Argus and Apache
> Sentry. Apache encourages disjoint teams to form independent
> projects, even when those projects overlap in scope. Additionally,
> we feel that the distinct code bases, development teams, and
> different approaches to the problem should be represented by
> different projects. This will provide better choices for users to
> choose from.

Approaches may be different, though I wouldn't think they are
irreconcilable and we could assume that the end result would be the best of
both, thus being a better choice.

Have you considered reaching out to the Sentry community to see if they
would be interested in bringing Argus existing code base into Sentry?

If you are interested, I'd be happy to spend some cycles to see if this
would be possible.

Cheers.



On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Definitely +1, active members, with lack diversity, are more useful.
>
> My original comment was to suggest having mentors come from different
> organizations so hopefully could help provide different perspectives
> and inputs to the podling.
> Never my intention to suggest false diversity to start an Apache
> incubator project.
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Chris Douglas <cdouglas@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> > So, I am fond of Henry's hope that the project will solicit a more
> >> diversified
> >> > set of mentors and initial committers.
> >>
> >> The committer and PPMC list should be honest. If there is no
> >> diversity, that fact must be visible for it to be tracked.
> >>
> >> Initial committers are a dodge that demonstrates nothing about the
> >> project's willingness to not only accept, but attract new ideas. The
> >> viability of an OSS project is not inaccurately *defined* as its
> >> ability to compete for that attention. Demanding pro forma adherence
> >> to heuristics is a harmful lesson to podlings, unless the goal is to
> >> teach them to evade accountability. -C
> >
> >
> > +1 to this.
> >
> > Sham committers are more of a pain than lack of diversity, as much as I
> > dislike sock-puppet projects.
>
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-- 
Alejandro

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