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From Chip Childers <chipchild...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Graduation resolution does not allow for committers != PMC
Date Fri, 04 Apr 2014 18:25:46 GMT
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> Although I have a hard time understanding why people who deserve to
> accompany a podling on graduation do not deserve being on its PMC, the
> solution is simple: the newly established PMC just needs to
> re-establish those people as committers, and it can do this as soon as
> the graudation resolution is accepted by the board.
>
> How they do it is up to them, lazy consensus ("we're going to re-add
> those people as committers unless someone objects" on their private
> list would work for example.

Why does there even need to be an explicit action?  Committers are
committers for the project, and this is really a community level
issue.  A project moves from the incubator to being a TLP, but it's
community is the same.  Only TLP creation and PMC membership require
any true formality, largely to create the new "home" for the
community.

I think that we would find that the reality for most graduation
projects is that they either (1) don't even consider this an issue, or
(2) make any committer changes they want to make before graduation.
The overwhelming majority seem to do (1)... at least that's what I've
observed.

I'd agree to Sebb's idea of perhaps updating documentation to clarify
that the resolution is the PMC (the wording in the resolution itself
talks about the "members of the project", which can be a bit confusing
and / or off-putting).

-chip

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