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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator
Date Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:10:05 GMT
I think it would be better to start a new thread with the updated text.

Also, the two scope descriptions are slightly different:

"related to fast and flexible large-scale data analysis
on clusters."

v.

"related to efficient cluster management, resource isolation
and sharing across distributed applications"

I don't know whether that is important or not.


On 8 February 2014 22:46, Matei Zaharia <matei.zaharia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the votes. Since we now have accounts for everyone, I've updated
the committer list below to include ASF IDs. Thanks to INFRA, we also now have both pull request
postings and comments on them forwarded to the our mailing list.
>
> ---- snip
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> public, related to fast and flexible large-scale data analysis
> on clusters.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Spark Project", be
> and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation;
> and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Spark Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to efficient cluster management, resource isolation
> and sharing across distributed applications; and be it further
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Spark" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
> at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> Apache Spark Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> of the Apache Spark Project; and be it further
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Spark Project:
>
> * Mosharaf Chowdhury <mosharaf@apache.org>
> * Jason Dai <jasondai@apache.org>
> * Tathagata Das <tdas@apache.org>
> * Ankur Dave <ankurdave@apache.org>
> * Aaron Davidson <adav@apache.org>
> * Thomas Dudziak <tomdz@apache.org>
> * Robert Evans <bobby@apache.org>
> * Thomas Graves <tgraves@apache.org>
> * Andy Konwinski <andrew@apache.org>
> * Stephen Haberman <stephenh@apache.org>
> * Mark Hamstra <markhamstra@apache.org>
> * Shane Huang <shane_huang@apache.org>
> * Ryan LeCompte <ryanlecompte@apache.org>
> * Haoyuan Li <haoyuan@apache.org>
> * Sean McNamara <mcnamara@apache.org>
> * Mridul Muralidharam <mridulm80@apache.org>
> * Kay Ousterhout <kayousterhout@apache.org>
> * Nick Pentreath <mlnick@apache.org>
> * Imran Rashid <irashid@apache.org>
> * Charles Reiss <woggle@apache.org>
> * Josh Rosen <joshrosen@apache.org>
> * Prashant Sharma <prashant@apache.org>
> * Ram Sriharsha <harsha@apache.org>
> * Shivaram Venkataraman <shivaram@apache.org>
> * Patrick Wendell <pwendell@apache.org>
> * Andrew Xia <xiajunluan@apache.org>
> * Reynold Xin <rxin@apache.org>
> * Matei Zaharia <matei@apache.org>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matei Zaharia be
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Spark, to
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or
> until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Spark Project be and hereby is
> tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator Spark podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator Spark podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> ----
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:02 AM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
>
>> Ted and Henry: Thanks for the thoughtful replies and indulging my concerns.
>>
>> +1 (binding)
>>
>> --David
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> HI David Nalley,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your comment and concern, really appreciate it.
>>>
>>> As Patrick had mentioned in his reply, this is not a persistent problem.
>>> The reminder I sent was about particular topic which could be
>>> interpreted as design or roadmap topic rather than review for a patch.
>>> Rather than reminding an individual or two involved in the discussion,
>>> I decided to send email to dev@ list to show by example  the open and
>>> transparent discussions the ASF way.
>>>
>>> Hope this gives some more clarification about the state of the podling
>>> embracing the ASF way.
>>>
>>> - Henry
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Patrick Wendell <pwendell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey All - chiming in as an active Spark committer.
>>>>
>>>>> The part that disturbs me is that after the vote passed in the
>>>>> community, and came to the IPMC a mentor is still having to remind
>>>>> folks that things like strategy and roadmap discussions need to happen
>>>>> on the mailing list. That's a pretty foundational concept in my mind
>>>>> for an Apache project.
>>>>
>>>> Henry gave a reminder on the mailing list not because it's a
>>>> persistent problem but because it never explicitly came up prior to
>>>> this. We use github for review comments and in one case this week
>>>> there was a brief discussion that could be interpreted as roadmap - so
>>>> Henry just gave a reminder not to do that. I can't imagine why any
>>>> project would *want* to use github review comments for long term
>>>> roadmap discussion... it's a terrible medium for that anyways! We have
>>>> a very active developer list and that is where these discussions take
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>>> The missing account issues are somewhat troubling, but also not really
>>>>> within the purview of the podling to fix either; though I find it odd
>>>>> that people committed to the podling (and many initial committers)
>>>>> haven't asked for their Apache account or needed to use it.
>>>>
>>>> This is because those people have still contributed a lot of code via
>>>> other commiters who merge so it's not an immediate urgency. For
>>>> perspective I am a committer on two other ASF projects but I've never
>>>> personally committed code to either - I do it through the more active
>>>> committers who basically spend all their time merging patches. A few
>>>> of the initial commiters are not currently active on the project;
>>>> they've made major contributions over the last few years of
>>>> development and are committers in recognition of those contributions
>>>> (see above).
>>>>
>>>> Popping up a level. We are happy to have github discussions forward to
>>>> either our dev- list or a reviews- list or something like that (I
>>>> beleive Matei is setting that up now). If IPCM folks want to debate
>>>> whether we should *have* to do that, it seems sensible to fork a
>>>> thread and discuss elsewhere. If IPMC folks want to debate whether
>>>> github should be allowed at all, I also think it's better discussed
>>>> outside of this graduation thread.
>>>>
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